Interstellar Medium and Pulsars

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The discussion centers on solving a problem from Jackson regarding the behavior of a partially ionized interstellar medium in response to pulsar signals. The poster is struggling to derive the expression for the transit time of a pulse from a pulsar, focusing on the relationship between electron density and the speed of light in a plasma. They present their initial attempts and calculations, including the derivation of the group velocity and the index of refraction for an electronic plasma. Another user suggests re-posting in a more specialized forum for better assistance. The conversation highlights the challenges of applying theoretical concepts to complex astrophysical problems.
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Originally posted in College Level Homework help but I got no responses there. Please help if you can.

I am studying for my qualifier and doing problems out of Jackson.
I am stuck on this one... any help would really be appreciated... I am unsure how to begin:
Jackson 7.15
The partially ionized interstellar medium (mostly hydrogen) responds to optical frequencies as an electronic plasma in a weak magnetic field. The broad-spectrum pulses from a pulsar allow determination of some average properties of the interstellar medium. The treatment of an electronic plasma in a magnetic field of Section 7.6 is pertinent.
a) Ignoring the weak magnetic field and assuming that max(w_p) \ll w, show that c times the transit time of a pulse of mean frequency w from a pulsar a distance R away is
ct(w) \approx R+\frac{e^2}{2 \epsilon_0 m_e w^2} \int n_e (z) dz
where n_e (z) is the electron density along the path of light.

so this is what I have so far:
ignoring the weak B-field the position has a solution of:
x=\frac{e}{m_e w^2}E
and obviously ct(w) is a distance, but now I am lost...
Please help, I have been stumbling with this problem for a couple of days and it is turning into a monster that I need to solve.
Thanks for any help you can give.
(ps. I have read the pertinent section of Jackson over and over... I don't see any help in it.)
 
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I had a go at trying to be of help, but it's been too long since I did this stuff. Try posting (again) in the Stellar Astrophysics forum
 
I think I actually solved it...

if t=\int^r_0 \frac{1}{v_g} dz

and I write
v_gv_p=c^2

Assumming that the the electron density is slowly varying over a wavelength of radiation, so that it is reasonable to think about a slowly varying index of refraction n(w,z) is can write:

v_p=\frac{c}{n(w,z)}

which implies that v_g=n(w,z) c

for an electronic plasma: n(w,z)=\sqrt{1 - \frac {w_p^2}{w^2} }

where w_p^2 =\frac{ n_e (z) e^2}{\epsilon_0 m_e}
where n_e (z) is the electron density

so therefore n(w,z)=\sqrt{1-\frac{n_e (z ) e^2}{\epsilon_0 m_e w^2}}

and then v_g=c\sqrt{1-\frac{n_e (z ) e^2}{\epsilon_0 m_e w^2}}

which implies that:
t=\frac{1}{c} \int_0^R (1-\frac{n_e (z ) e^2}{\epsilon_0 m_e w^2})^{-\frac{1}{2}} dz

since w_p \ll w:


ct(w) \approx \int_0^R (1+\frac{n_e (z) e^2}{2 \epsilon_0 m_e w^2}) dz

finally:

ct(w) \approx R+\frac{e^2}{2 \epsilon_0 m_e w^2} \int^R_0 n_e(z ) dz
 
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Chi Meson said:
I had a go at trying to be of help, but it's been too long since I did this stuff. Try posting (again) in the Stellar Astrophysics forum

Chi,

Thanks a lot for atleast trying... does the above look correct?
Thanks a lot,
Norm
 
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