Invertible linear transformation

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The discussion revolves around the properties of invertible linear transformations in finite-dimensional vector spaces. The original poster questions the necessity of elaborating on the implications of the composition of two linear transformations resulting in the identity transformation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to clarify the conditions under which a linear transformation is considered invertible, specifically questioning the need to demonstrate that both compositions yield the identity transformation.
  • Others suggest filling in blanks regarding the injective or surjective nature of the transformations based on the given composition.
  • There are inquiries about examples that illustrate the failure of invertibility when only one composition is known to equal the identity.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring the implications of the identity transformation and the conditions for invertibility. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the transformations, and examples have been proposed to illustrate the concepts being discussed.

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There is an emphasis on the finite-dimensionality of the vector space, which is a crucial aspect of the discussion. Additionally, the potential for circular logic when using determinants is noted, indicating a careful approach to the reasoning process.

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Homework Statement


State why it is that if V is finite-dimensional, and if S and T in HomV satisfy [tex]S\circ T = I[/tex], then T is invertible and S=T^-1



2. The attempt at a solution
Isn't this obvious? I don't understand why any elaboration is necessary
 
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Hi yifli! :smile:

No, this isn't obvious. T invertible means

[tex]S\circ T=1~\text{and}~T\circ S=1[/tex].

Now you only have that [itex]S\circ T=1[/itex]. Somehow, you need to show [itex]T\circ S=1[/itex].

(Hint: use determinants)
 
You don't need to use determinants (or even matrices), and in fact doing so might introduce circular logic depending on what theorems you use.

Instead, answer this:

[tex]S\circ T = I[/tex]

implies that T is _____ and S is _____

(Fill in the blanks with either injective or surjective as appropriate.)

Then you'll need to use the finite dimensionality of V to draw a conclusion.
 
jbunniii said:
You don't need to use determinants (or even matrices), and in fact doing so might introduce circular logic depending on what theorems you use.

Instead, answer this:

[tex]S\circ T = I[/tex]

implies that T is _____ and S is _____

(Fill in the blanks with either injective or surjective as appropriate.)

Then you'll need to use the finite dimensionality of V to draw a conclusion.

implies T is injective and S is surjective
since V is finite dimensional, T is an isomorphism,so S = T^-1
 
micromass said:
Hi yifli! :smile:

No, this isn't obvious. T invertible means

[tex]S\circ T=1~\text{and}~T\circ S=1[/tex].

Now you only have that [itex]S\circ T=1[/itex]. Somehow, you need to show [itex]T\circ S=1[/itex].

(Hint: use determinants)

Can you give me an example that shows T is not invertible if only ST=I is given?

thanks
 
yifli said:
Can you give me an example that shows T is not invertible if only ST=I is given?

thanks

It has to be an infinite-dimensional example, as you just showed.

Let V be the vector space consisting of infinite sequences of the form

[tex](a_1, a_2, a_3, \ldots)[/tex]

where the [tex]a_i[/tex] are real numbers. (Or complex. It doesn't matter.)

Addition and scalar multiplication are defined pointwise in the obvious way.

Let T be the operator that shifts the sequence right by one step:

[tex]T(a_1, a_2, a_3, \ldots) = (0, a_1, a_2, \ldots)[/tex]

And let S be the operator that shifts the sequence left by one step:

[tex]S(a_1, a_2, a_3, \ldots) = (a_2, a_3, a_4, \ldots)[/tex]

You can verify that these are linear operators, and that

[tex]S \circ T = I[/tex]

but

[tex]T \circ S \neq I[/tex]

T can be "undone" but S cannot.
 
yifli said:
Can you give me an example that shows T is not invertible if only ST=I is given?

thanks

With other things than vector spaces you mean?
Well, take T:{1}-> {1,2} with T(1)=1 and take S:{1,2}->{1} with S(1)=1 and S(2)=1.
 

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