Ions & Lorentz Force: Collisions w/ Oppositely Charged Electrodes

In summary: If you were looking for information on a specific case, you could try googling "lorrentz force in an imperfect vacuum."
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When ions collide with oppositely charged electrodes, do they experience a Lorentz force as they gain or lose electrons? Is there a force, ignoring the repulsion of the positive electrode, in the direction of the blue arrow depicted here?

Only information I find is on ionic fluids.
 
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Samson4 said:
View attachment 95276 When ions collide with oppositely charged electrodes, do they experience a Lorentz force as they gain or lose electrons? Is there a force, ignoring the repulsion of the positive electrode, in the direction of the blue arrow depicted here?

Only information I find is on ionic fluids.

You are making several leaps of assumptions here that appears to turn this into something rather specific.

First of all, what exactly are you trying to learn here? Is it simply a general concept of what happens, in general, when ions hit the respective electrodes? Or do you specifically want, as depicted in your figure, the special case where a negative ion hit a positive electrode, and then this ion doesn't form anything else but moves (?) on? (see your figure).

Note that this type of phenomenon is often used in coating stuff. The ions are attracted to the charged surface, and they then bind to that surface, forming a thin coat, i.e. they don't move on. So it is hard to know if you just want to understand this in general, or of something more specific.

Zz.
 
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In an imperfect vacuum, where current is carried by ionized gas molecules, will the gas molecules experience such a lorrentz force?
 
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Samson4 said:
In an imperfect vacuum, where current is carried by ionized gas molecules, will the gas molecules experience such a lorrentz force?

As long as there is a charge, and there is a net electric field, there will always be a Lorentz force. Whether that force and produce what you and I want, or be described very simply, that's a different question.

Zz.
 
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Thank you. If you were searching for information for such a specific case, what would you google?
 

1. What are ions and how are they formed?

Ions are atoms or molecules that have a positive or negative charge due to the gain or loss of electrons. They are formed through various processes such as chemical reactions, radiation, and collisions with other particles.

2. What is the Lorentz force and how does it affect ions?

The Lorentz force is the force exerted on a charged particle in an electric and magnetic field. It affects ions by causing them to accelerate or change direction when they come into contact with an electric or magnetic field.

3. What are collisions with oppositely charged electrodes and how do they impact ions?

Collisions with oppositely charged electrodes occur when ions come into contact with electrodes of opposite charge. This can cause the ions to lose or gain electrons and change their charge, leading to changes in their behavior and movement.

4. What are some applications of studying ions and Lorentz force collisions?

Studying ions and Lorentz force collisions is important in various fields such as plasma physics, materials science, and environmental research. It helps us understand and control the behavior of charged particles, which can lead to advancements in technology and new discoveries.

5. How does the electric and magnetic field strength affect the collisions between ions and oppositely charged electrodes?

The strength of the electric and magnetic fields can significantly impact the collisions between ions and oppositely charged electrodes. Higher field strengths can result in stronger forces exerted on the ions, leading to more significant changes in their behavior and movement.

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