Is Brownian motion a purely classical phenomenon or is it also quantm?

In summary, the conversation discusses the role of quantum effects in the Brownian motion of a water molecule and whether classical thermodynamics or quantum mechanics should be considered. It is suggested that in most cases, classical mechanics is sufficient, but there is also a concept of "quantum Brownian motion" that leads to non-Markovian descriptions. A paper by G. W. Ford, J. T. Lewis, and R. F. O'Connell is recommended for further understanding.
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A water molecule is as tiny as 0.3 Angstrom. I would expect that quantum effects play a role. I'm wondering if its Brownian motion in a fluid is determined only by classical thermodynamics or if its collisional processes must take into account also quantum scatterings or other effects like quantum uncertainty? I looked for this but couldn't find anyone considering this. Any suggestion?
 
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When Einstein explained the Brownian motion in one of his wonderful papers of 1905 (https://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/UG/SM/MATH3075/r/Einstein_1905.pdf), he used classical mechanics only. Quantum mechanics was not invented yet, though Einstein himself was concurrently working on it. Unless you have a case where the details of the interactions during the collisions become relevant, you are unlikely to need quantum mechanics. As long as the collisions are elastic, a classical model is accurate enough.
 
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Of course there's also "quantum Brownian motion". Interstingly it always leads to non-Markovian descriptions. A nice paper, which should be understandable at the introductory quantum-statistics-lecture level (or even after the QM 1 lecture) is

G. W. Ford, J. T. Lewis and R. F. O’Connell, Quantum
Langevin equation, Phys. Rev. A 37, 4419 (1988),
https://doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevA.37.4419
 
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1. What is Brownian motion?

Brownian motion is the random movement of particles suspended in a fluid, caused by collisions with the fluid molecules.

2. Is Brownian motion a purely classical phenomenon?

No, Brownian motion is not purely classical. It was first explained by Albert Einstein in 1905 using classical physics, but it is also influenced by quantum effects.

3. How is Brownian motion related to quantum mechanics?

Brownian motion is related to quantum mechanics through the concept of quantum fluctuations. These fluctuations, which arise from the uncertainty principle, cause the random movements of particles in Brownian motion.

4. Can Brownian motion be observed in quantum systems?

Yes, Brownian motion has been observed in quantum systems such as ultracold atoms and quantum dots. These systems are highly controlled and can exhibit both classical and quantum behavior.

5. What are the implications of Brownian motion being influenced by quantum effects?

The presence of quantum effects in Brownian motion has implications for our understanding of thermodynamics and the behavior of small particles in fluids. It also has practical applications in fields such as nanotechnology and biophysics.

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