Is computer science the next physics?

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The discussion centers on the potential for computers to conduct physics experiments autonomously in the future, specifically envisioning machines capable of detecting and analyzing physical phenomena, such as magnetic fields, and deriving fundamental equations like Maxwell's equations. Participants express excitement about the advancements in computer science and its intersection with physics, noting that while current experiments often rely on known formulas, there is hope for computers to generate original expressions through empirical data analysis. The conversation touches on the importance of a physics foundation for computer science, arguing that understanding the context of data is crucial for meaningful interpretation. There is skepticism about whether computer science can fully replace the analytical and problem-solving capabilities unique to physicists, emphasizing that while computational power will enhance experimental capabilities, human insight remains essential for interpreting results. The potential for digital physics and related graduate programs is also mentioned, highlighting the ongoing evolution of both fields.
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Can anyone out there entertain the idea of the likelihood that sometime in the future (say, maybe 50 years or so from today) there will computers that can "conduct" physics experiments. Let's say, for example, we program a machine, with corresponding hardware apparatuses to detect a nearby magnet, record the electric and magnetic fields/potentials/etc at different points using hardware, run it through computational software and do some "best-fit" measurements to conform it to an all-encompassing equation and have the machine spit out one of Maxwell's equations? Surely, this would seem cumbersome at first, but with enough insight and trial and error, we could optimize calculations and generalize the machine to mathematically formulate other complex phenomena. This is one of the reasons that I've switched to computer science from physics, in that cs has so much potential. Has anyone heard of digital physics? Are there graduate programs in that field? Is a degree in CS enough preparation, or do you also need a physics background?
 
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Pengwuino said:

I think I heard about that somewhere. That's pretty neat, but aren't those scientists comparing it with already known formulas? I'm talking about the computer being the one in charge here, and creating truly original expressions by generalizing and molding empirical measurements. Perhaps, that's a bit bold for right now, but it's good to see that progress is being made.
 
CyberShot said:
I think I heard about that somewhere. That's pretty neat, but aren't those scientists comparing it with already known formulas? I'm talking about the computer being the one in charge here, and creating truly original expressions by generalizing and molding empirical measurements. Perhaps, that's a bit bold for right now, but it's good to see that progress is being made.

Well, of course they compare to already known formulas because we have to check to make sure it knows what it's doing. The key is they didn't tell the computer anything about Newton's laws and it popped out Newton's laws.
 
Ah damn it and here I thought I found the new path of life.
 
Computer Science was created by physics. Without physics foundation, this generation wouldn't have much technology as we do now.
 
leontd said:
Computer Science was created by physics. Without physics foundation, this generation wouldn't have much technology as we do now.

Agreed, and what's your point?
 
CyberShot said:
Can anyone out there entertain the idea of the likelihood that sometime in the future (say, maybe 50 years or so from today) there will computers that can "conduct" physics experiments. Let's say, for example, we program a machine, with corresponding hardware apparatuses to detect a nearby magnet, record the electric and magnetic fields/potentials/etc at different points using hardware, run it through computational software and do some "best-fit" measurements to conform it to an all-encompassing equation and have the machine spit out one of Maxwell's equations? Surely, this would seem cumbersome at first, but with enough insight and trial and error, we could optimize calculations and generalize the machine to mathematically formulate other complex phenomena.


This is one of the reasons that I've switched to computer science from physics, in that cs has so much potential. Has anyone heard of digital physics? Are there graduate programs in that field? Is a degree in CS enough preparation, or do you also need a physics background?

I don't think computer science will be the next physics. The domain and context of the two are so different.

Physicists think, analyze, and solve problems in a very unique way to computer scientists, and computers.

Even if a super-computer somehow magically fitted all the data to some model using advanced algorithms, it doesn't really know how to interpret it. You need physicists for that. You need context and context is not something that can be easily programmed into a computer.

Personally I think every major science has unlimited potential. There are so many unanswered questions, so many opportunities for further abstraction, and just so many opportunities for discovery and advancement.
 
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Yep, of course. Like Pengwuino showed there's already experiments done within the whelm of computer science. Obviously, as computer power increases we'll see more advanced experiments :)
 

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