Is earth doing work on the moon?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of work in physics, specifically whether the Earth does work on the Moon in the context of its orbit. Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of work, energy conservation, and gravitational interactions.

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  • Participants are examining the definition of work and its application to the Earth-Moon system, questioning whether energy transfer occurs in a circular orbit. Some are considering the implications of gravitational forces and orbital mechanics, while others introduce the effects of tidal interactions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the nature of work and energy in the Earth-Moon relationship. Some have offered insights into energy conservation and tidal forces, suggesting that there may be work involved due to energy loss in the system.

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Participants are operating under the assumption of a perfectly circular orbit and are discussing the implications of this assumption on the concept of work. There is also mention of the effects of tidal forces and energy loss due to friction, which may influence the overall understanding of the system.

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The definition of work states that the object must move in the same direction as the force. W=Fd. I am contemplating whether or not the Earth is doing "work" on the moon. My answer would be no, because no energy is being transferred, and the moon stays at around the same height (we are assuming a perfectly circular orbit). But... then I think that the moon IS constantly falling towards the earth, but it keeps missing it due to it's velocity... I am confused. lol, thanks.
 
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The definition of work is W = F.d, where the '.' refers to the scalar product (or dor product) - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vsca2.html#vsc4 .

So, assuming a circular orbit for the moon, in which it moves with the same linear velocity, the Earth does no work on the moon.

From the conservation of energy, the potential and kinetic energies are constant at all times, and thus we arrive at the same conclusion.
 
thanks neutrino
 
In a simplified way neutrino's answer is correct. But we must remember that the moon causes tides on Earth (and the Earth on the moon). Since the Earth turns, the tides cause friction in the bottom of the ocean. This causes a loss of energy. The Earth's rotation is becoming slower. In order to conserve momentum, the moon is getting farther from earth.
Since there is loss of energy, there is work being done.
 

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