Is $f$ a function or a functional?

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The discussion revolves around the distinction between a function and a functional, particularly in the context of a specific mapping example: $f(x_1, x_2, x_3) = x_1 + 2x_2^2 + 3x_3^3$. Participants explore the definitions and implications of these terms within mathematical contexts, including vector spaces and transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that $f$ is both a function and a functional, defining a functional as a function that maps a vector from a vector space into the field over which the vector space is defined.
  • Another participant reiterates the same point about $f$ being both, emphasizing that while all functionals are functions, not all functions qualify as functionals.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty and proposes that a counterexample, such as the continuous Fourier transform, could clarify the distinction.
  • Another participant agrees with the idea of using the Fourier transform as a counterexample, stating that its result is another function or vector, and mentions matrix transformations, like rotations, as additional counterexamples.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions of function and functional, but there is uncertainty regarding specific examples and the implications of these definitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the application of these concepts to certain transformations.

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Participants reference specific mathematical constructs and transformations, indicating that the definitions may depend on the context of vector spaces and mappings. There is an acknowledgment of potential counterexamples that could complicate the discussion.

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Hello everyone!

I'm a bit confused about referring to a mapping as function or functional, for example: $f(x_1, x_2, x_3) = x_1+2x_2 ^2+3x_3 ^3$. $f$ takes vector $\textbf{x}=[x_1 \; x_2 \; x_3]$ and maps it to a scalar. Now, is $f$ a function or a functional?

Thanks!
 
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It's both, in this case. A functional is a function that maps a vector from a vector space into the field over which the vector space is defined. So all functionals are functions, but not all functions are functionals. Does that help?
 
Ackbach said:
It's both, in this case. A functional is a function that maps a vector from a vector space into the field over which the vector space is defined. So all functionals are functions, but not all functions are functionals. Does that help?

Not really sure unless, say, a counter example would be a continuous transform such as the continuous Fourier transform?
 
OhMyMarkov said:
Not really sure unless, say, a counter example would be a continuous transform such as the continuous Fourier transform?

Sure. The result of a Fourier transform is another function (or vector, depending on your vector space). Another counterexample is any matrix transformation, such as a rotation.
 

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