Is Infinity the Identity Element in Some Operations?

In summary, there are some number systems, such as the extended real number system, where infinity is considered a number and can be the additive, subtractive, or multiplicative identity. However, in most number systems, including the ones we commonly use, infinity is not a number but rather a symbol representing a concept of endlessness. Therefore, it cannot function as an identity in the same way that zero and one can. However, in some specialized mathematical contexts, such as elliptic groups, infinity can be considered an identity element.
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If zero is the additive identity and one is the multiplicative identity, is there an operation for which infinity is the identity?
 
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Ontophobe said:
If zero is the additive identity and one is the multiplicative identity, is there an operation for which infinity is the identity?

Sure. If the only number you have is infinity, then it is the additive, subtractive, and multiplicative identity.
 
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In what number system? 0 is the additive identity and 1 the multiplicative identity in the integers, rational numbers, real numbers, complex numbers but none of those include "infinity". To have "infinity" you have to go to the "extended real number system" but that does NOT have the usual operations so has no "identities".
 
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I think, dear OP, you might want to draw a fine point on the fact that 0 and 1 are numbers (whether natural, integral, real, or complex) and infinity is not a number, so much as a symbol to represent a process. As such, when talking about identities you have to ask yourself, even in an abstract algebra, does infinity ever play the role of an identity. How could you possibly interpret it as identity? For example:

Adding something to nothing gives you that same something.
Multiplying something by one gives you that same something.
What operation could you do with infinity so that no matter what the number, you get that same something?

Infinity is essentially a symbol we invoke when we want to represent iteration potentially without end, more than it is a number which we can count to or perform standard operations such as addition, multiplication, and exponentiation (all of which are just shortcuts for counting).
 
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aikismos said:
As such, when talking about identities you have to ask yourself, even in an abstract algebra, does infinity ever play the role of an identity.

Answer is yes. Infinity is the identity element of elliptic groups.
 
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Related to Is Infinity the Identity Element in Some Operations?

1. What is the concept of zero, one, and infinity in science?

The concept of zero, one, and infinity is a fundamental one in science and mathematics. These three values represent different concepts and are used to describe various phenomena in the natural world.

2. How is zero used in science and mathematics?

Zero is used as a placeholder value, indicating the absence of a quantity or the starting point of a scale. It is also used in calculations involving negative numbers and as a reference point for measuring temperatures, time, and other quantities.

3. What does the number one represent in science and mathematics?

In science and mathematics, the number one represents unity, singularity, and a single unit. It is also used as a multiplicative identity, meaning that when multiplied by any other number, the result is that number itself.

4. How does the concept of infinity play a role in science?

The concept of infinity is used to describe something that has no limit or bound, such as the infinite expanse of the universe. It is also used in calculus to describe the behavior of functions that approach a limit as their inputs approach infinity.

5. Can zero, one, and infinity exist in the physical world?

While these concepts are used extensively in science and mathematics, whether they truly exist in the physical world is a topic of debate. Some argue that zero and infinity are simply abstract concepts, while others believe they can be observed in certain phenomena, such as the infinite divisibility of matter.

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