B Is it possible to harvest energy from fluid buoyancy?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of harvesting energy from the buoyancy of helium balloons. A proposed idea involves using a long rope attached to a helium balloon to generate electricity as it rises. However, participants emphasize that once the balloon reaches its peak, it stops, and any mechanism to deflate and reuse the balloon would require additional energy, making it inefficient. The conversation also highlights that concepts like perpetual motion and free energy are not valid and are considered pseudoscience. Ultimately, the consensus is that the proposed energy-harvesting device would not work effectively.
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So I've noticed my little sister's helium balloons floating at the ceiling. Made me wonder if someone could create a device that could harvest energy from this buoyancy. What if I tied a very long rope to a huge balloon filled with helium, and rolled the other end of the rope to a gear attached to a generator of sort. As the balloon goes up, the rope would rotate the gear, generating electricity. Would that work? more importantly, would it be efficient to make such a device?

English isn't my first language, so I apologize in advance!
 
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But once the balloon is all the way up, then it stops.
 
Khashishi said:
But once the balloon is all the way up, then it stops.
What if we made a device that automatically deflates the balloon when it reaches the top? The balloon drops to the ground, tie the rope again.
 
Ahmad Esber said:
What if we made a device that automatically deflates the balloon when it reaches the top? The balloon drops to the ground, tie the rope again.
We do not discuss perpetual motion here. Not even to tell you why it cannot work.
 
So, either you are compressing the helium at the top (which takes energy) to reuse it, or you are just letting the helium escape and filling it with new helium at the bottom. Well, you quickly run out of helium that way, and it costs too much to harvest new helium.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
We do not discuss perpetual motion here. Not even to tell you why it cannot work.
Correct.

@Ahmad Esber -- Please follow the links in the quote below from the PF list of Banned Topics. They should help you understand why your idea will not work. Thread is closed.

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Pseudoscience, such as (but not limited to):

Perpetual motion and "free energy" discussions
http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Free_Energy_Debunking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
http://www.skepdic.com/freeenergy.html
http://www.skepdic.com/perpetual.html
 
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