Is it possible to use L= r x p to find angular momentum here

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The discussion focuses on the use of angular momentum formulas in a physics problem involving a rotating wheel. The professor applied L = I ω to account for the wheel's moment of inertia at the contact point with the ground. The participants clarify that L = r x p is applicable only when the object is sliding without friction, treating it as a point mass. When the wheel is rotating, the moment of inertia and the parallel axis theorem must be considered. The conclusion emphasizes that L = MRV can be used for non-rotating rigid bodies in linear motion.
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Homework Statement



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L = I ω
L= r x p

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For b)

My proffesor found the moment of inertia at the point at which the wheel touches the ground, and used the formula L = I ω
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What I don't understand is why can't one use L= r x p to solve the problem.
Wouldn't L then simply be L=RMV? [/B]
 

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Warlic said:
What I don't understand is why can't one use L= r x p to solve the problem.
Wouldn't L then simply be L=RMV?
If the wheel were sliding without friction along the road then that would be true. Then the wheel could be modeled as a point mass M moving past the point of interest at a perpendicular distance R.

But the wheel is rotating (about the instantaneous contact point on the road). So the wheel's moment of inertia and the parallel axis theorem is called for.
 
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gneill said:
If the wheel were sliding without friction along the road then that would be true. Then the wheel could be modeled as a point mass M moving past the point of interest at a perpendicular distance R.

But the wheel is rotating (about the instantaneous contact point on the road). So the wheel's moment of inertia and the parallel axis theorem is called for.
I see, thank you. So if the object is not rotating, I can use L=MRV, where R is the distance to the center of mass of the object?
 
Warlic said:
I see, thank you. So if the object is not rotating, I can use L=MRV, where R is the distance to the center of mass of the object?
Yes. Then it's just a non-rotating rigid body undergoing linear motion.
 
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