Is our locally measured time actually conformal time?

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The FRW metric at the origin ##r=0##, with ##c=1##, is given by:
$$ds^2=-dt^2+a(t)^2dr^2$$
Now one can change variables so that near the origin the FRW metric is approximated by the Minkowski metric describing flat spacetime:
$$dS^2=-dT^2+dR^2$$
where:
$$dT=\frac{dt}{a(t)}$$
$$dS=\frac{ds}{a(t)}$$
$$dR=dr$$
All the physics experiments that we perform locally are assumed to occur in flat spacetime as described above.

Surely therefore our locally measured time is not the cosmological time ##t## but rather the conformal time ##T## ?
 
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The local measured time, for any observer, is the proper time. The proper time is, in this case, almost identical to the cosmological time.
 
jcap said:
one can change variables so that near the origin the FRW metric is approximated by the Minkowski metric describing flat spacetime:
$$
dS^2=-dT^2+dR^2
$$

where:

$$​
dT=\frac{dt}{a(t)}
$$

$$
dS=\frac{ds}{a(t)}
$$

$$
dR = dr
$$

This isn't a correct transformation. You can't transform ##ds## to ##dS##; ##ds## is the actual, physical line element, and it has to be left invariant, otherwise you're comparing apples and oranges. The correct transformation gives:

$$
ds^2 = a^2(T) \left( - dT^2 + dR^2 \right)
$$

In order to make the metric Minkowski in our local vicinity, you have to define ##a(T_0) = 1##, where ##T_0## is our current value of ##T##. But that only works locally, and we can make observations that go beyond that local region of spacetime. And in any case, proper time for an observer at constant ##R## is given by ##a(T) dT##, not ##dT##; again, you can try to obscure this by defining ##a(T_0) = 1##, but we can make observations covering a larger region of spacetime than the local region covered by that definition.
 
You can make the following:

ds^2= dt^2 - a^2(t) dr^2 = a^2(t) \big( \frac{dt^2}{a^2(t)} - dr^2 \big)

now you can write the first term in the parenthesis as a single variable by changing \frac{dt}{a(t)}= d( \ln a(t) ) \equiv dT.

So:

ds^2= a^2(t) \big[ dT^2 - dr^2 \big] or to have everything in the same coordinates: ds^2= e^{2T} \big[ dT^2 - dr^2 \big]
since T(t)= \ln a(t) \Rightarrow a(t)= e^{T}
 
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You can make the following:

ds^2= dt^2 - a^2(t) dr^2 = a^2(t) \big( \frac{dt^2}{a^2(t)} - dr^2 \big)

now you can write the first term in the parenthesis as a single variable by changing \frac{dt}{a(t)}= d( \ln a(t) ) \equiv dT.

So:

ds^2= a^2(t) \big[ dT^2 - dr^2 \big] or to have everything in the same coordinates: ds^2= e^{2T} \big[ dT^2 - dr^2 \big]
since T(t)= \ln a(t) \Rightarrow a(t)= e^{T}

But ## d(\ln a(t))=\frac{\dot a(t)}{a(t)}dt\neq\frac{dt}{a(t)} ##
You need ## T=\int\frac{dt}{a(t)} ## instead
 
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Oops I'm sorry!
 
No it's an interesting point, I have been using this ## T=\int\frac{dt}{a(t)} ## but I didn't know it was called conformal time - never really got to checking what that name was referring to, seemed a bit exotic... So now I know, and I can also see it's a useful thing - thanks.
 
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