Is Polar Conversion the Best Approach for This Double Integral Problem?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a double integral problem, with participants exploring whether polar coordinates are the most effective approach for solving it. The context involves evaluating an integral that may be simplified through different coordinate systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers using polar coordinates but expresses uncertainty about the setup and the complexity of the resulting integral. Some participants suggest that the problem may be simpler in Cartesian coordinates, questioning the necessity of polar conversion.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering alternative approaches that appear to simplify the original poster's concerns. There is recognition of the potential ease of the Cartesian method, although the original poster remains focused on understanding the mechanics of the integral.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's struggle with the integral's setup and the implications of using polar coordinates versus Cartesian coordinates. Additionally, a note on the properties of odd functions is introduced, which may influence the evaluation of the integral.

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Homework Statement


http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3118/intx.th.jpg


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I'm guessing polar conversion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_...rting_between_polar_and_Cartesian_coordinates

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having trouble tackling this problem, on one hand Cartesian coordinates seem like a hassle, but turning this into a polar problem will give http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8738/int2o.th.jpg right? This seems like an equally unpleasant integral, what with the cos^3 and all. Am I setting this problem up incorrectly? Can someone tell me the first few steps in doing this problem? I'm fine understanding the problem which the integral applies, just the mechanics on it is getting me.
 
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Why are you bothering with polar coordinates? I think that this problem is simpler than you're making out

[tex]I = \int_{-1}^1dz\int_{-\sqrt{1-z^2}}^{\sqrt{1-z^2}} \left(1-2x^3\right) dx = \int_{-1}^1 dz \left[x-\frac{1}{2}x^4\right]_{-\sqrt{1-z^2}}^\sqrt{1-z^2}[/tex]

[tex]I = \int_{-1}^1dz\left(2\sqrt{1-z^2} - \frac{1}{2}\left(1-z^2}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{2}\left(1-z^2}\right)^2\right)[/tex]

[tex]I = \int_{-1}^1dz\left(2\sqrt{1-z^2}\right)[/tex]
 
Hootenanny said:
Why are you bothering with polar coordinates? I think that this problem is simpler than you're making out

[tex]I = \int_{-1}^1dz\int_{-\sqrt{1-z^2}}^{\sqrt{1-z^2}} \left(1-2x^3\right) dx = \int_{-1}^1 dz \left[x-\frac{1}{2}x^4\right]_{-\sqrt{1-z^2}}^\sqrt{1-z^2}[/tex]

[tex]I = \int_{-1}^1dz\left(2\sqrt{1-z^2} - \frac{1}{2}\left(1-z^2}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{2}\left(1-z^2}\right)^2\right)[/tex]

[tex]I = \int_{-1}^1dz\left(2\sqrt{1-z^2}\right)[/tex]

Doh! That was a lot easier than I thought it was(!), that's the perils of late-night mathematics I suppose. Thanks a lot! You've saved me many needlessly lost hairs.
 
CINA said:
Doh! That was a lot easier than I thought it was(!), that's the perils of late-night mathematics I suppose. Thanks a lot! You've saved me many needlessly lost hairs.
Not a problem.

A handy rule to remember is that if you integrate an odd function (such as x3) over a symmetric interval about the origin (as we have here), the result is always zero.
 

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