Is radioactive decay independent of the environment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether the rate of radioactive decay is fixed or influenced by environmental factors, such as gravitational fields. It explores theoretical implications and specific cases where decay rates may vary due to environmental conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question if the rate of radioactive decay is constant or affected by environmental conditions, specifically gravitational fields.
  • One participant cites bound β decay as an example where environmental factors can lead to significant changes in decay rates, noting the difference in half-life for neutral versus ionized Rh 187.
  • Another participant mentions that gravity can influence the half-life of radioactive materials, suggesting that time appears to "slow down" under strong gravitational fields.
  • Participants discuss electron capture as another decay process that is contingent on the presence of electrons, indicating that fully stripped nuclei do not undergo this type of decay.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of environmental factors on radioactive decay rates, with some suggesting significant effects in specific cases while others propose that decay rates may remain fixed under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general applicability of these claims.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific conditions such as the presence of electrons in certain decay processes and the effects of gravitational fields, which may not be universally applicable across all radioactive materials.

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Is the rate of radioactive decay fixed or does the environment have any impact eg would the rate of decay be the same in a low or very high gravitational field (in both cases measured from the viewpoint of the radioactive material)?
 
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In some special cases you can have huge effects. One example is bound ##\beta## decay, where the electron decays into a bound atomic state rather than a free (scattering) state. Of course it can do so only if the corresponding atomic state is not occupied by an electron since electrons are fermions. A famous example is Rh 187 which as a neutral atom decays with a half-life of about ##42 \cdot 10^9 \, \text{y}##, making it apparently to a perfect clock to measure the age of astrophysical objects by measuring the abundance ratio of Rh and Os (it's decay product). However, when the Rh is ionized, then bound-state ##\beta## decay can take place. Then the half-life becomes of the order of ##10 \; \text{y}##, i.e., a 9 orders of magnitude smaller value. In fact the half-life of ionized Rh 187 has been measured at GSI in Darmstadt (Germany) to be ##33 \;\text{y}##. For a very nice review by Fritz Bosch, one of the scientists involved in these measurements, see

http://www.euroschoolonexoticbeams.be/site/files/nlp/LNP651_contrib5.pdf
 
Schnellmann said:
Is the rate of radioactive decay fixed or does the environment have any impact eg would the rate of decay be the same in a low or very high gravitational field (in both cases measured from the viewpoint of the radioactive material)?

Gravity does affect the radioactive 1/2 life in the sense that time appears to "slow down" when enough mass is present.
 
vanhees71 said:
In some special cases you can have huge effects.

For example, some nuclei decay by electron capture. If you are looking at fully stripped nuclei (no electrons), these decays don't happen.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
For example, some nuclei decay by electron capture. If you are looking at fully stripped nuclei (no electrons), these decays don't happen.
Yep, that's a crossing-symmetric reaction to my example of bound ##\beta## decay :-)).
 

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