Volumes in different dimensions

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The discussion focuses on the concept of volume in different dimensions, clarifying that while a line has length, it has no area, resulting in a volume of zero. It emphasizes that higher-dimensional objects also have measures that can equal zero under certain conditions, specifically mentioning the need for completeness in measure theory. The conversation touches on the complexity introduced by fractional dimensions, citing examples like the Koch Snowflake and Sierpenski Sponge, which exhibit infinite lengths or surface areas despite being bounded. Additionally, there is a side note about the forum's interface changes, particularly the absence of a button to mark threads as solved. Overall, the thread explores the mathematical properties of dimensions and their implications on volume and area.
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Homework Statement
Does a line from f(x) to the x-axis have any area?
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not sure how to describe the area of a line
I would assume that it has some area even if it is really really small. But I guess a line implies that the left and right boundaries are going to the middle an infinite amount, so it has area =0? does anyone get what I mean?
 
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You are correct, but there is a way to represent that fact using ##dx## or ##\delta x## and ##f(x)##. They might want that for an answer.
 
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You are correct, but there is a way to represent that fact using ##dx## or ##\partial x## and ##f(x)##. They might want that for an answer.
oh wasn't a homework question, was just wondering myself. I appreciate it though! Also, I use to be able to mark my thread as solved with the old layout. Where is the button on this new one??
 
r0bHadz said:
oh wasn't a homework question, was just wondering myself. I appreciate it though! Also, I use to be able to mark my thread as solved with the old layout. Where is the button on this new one??
Looks as though there is NO such button now.
 
r0bHadz said:
I would assume that it has some area even if it is really really small. But I guess a line implies that the left and right boundaries are going to the middle an infinite amount, so it has area =0? does anyone get what I mean?
No, the volume is zero. It has a length, but no area.
 
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To generalize, an n-dimensional object ( I think we need to assume completeness of measure) has , for k integer, k>0, (n+k)- dimensional measure equal to 0. The completeness is used to make sure it is measurable.
 
fresh_42 said:
No, the volume is zero. It has a length, but no area.
And to elaborate, a point is a mathematical object of dimension zero -- no length, width, or height.
A line is one-dimensional, and has length only.
A rectangle (or triangle, circular disk, or other similar plane object) is two-dimensional, and has area as an attribute.
A cube (or sphere or other solid object) is three-dimensional, and has volume as an attribute.

Things get more complicated if you allow fractional dimensions, with so-called space filling curves such as the Koch Snowflake or the Sierpenski Sponge. The Koch Snowflake can be shown to be a bounded curve (i.e., entirely contained within some rectangle in the plane) that has an infinite length. The Sierpenski Sponge can be also shown to have an infinite surface area, while being enclosed in some box in three-dimensional space.
 
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