Is the Limit as it Approaches 0 Always Infinity?

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The discussion centers on the concept of limits approaching zero and why they are not simply considered infinite. Participants explore various limit expressions, particularly focusing on the limit of the form -infinity/infinity, questioning its interpretation. The conversation highlights that limits can yield finite values even when involving infinity, emphasizing the importance of proper algebraic manipulation. A key takeaway is that limits can result in negative or finite numbers, contradicting the notion that they are always infinite. Ultimately, the discussion clarifies that limits require careful evaluation rather than a simplistic view of infinity.
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Why is the limit not just infinity?

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wouldn't it be (1-infinity)/(1+infinity)?
 
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Why should "-infinity/infinity" be infinity?

What is the limit of
$$\lim_{s \to 0} \frac{\frac{-1}{2}}{\frac{2}{s}}$$?
 
mfb said:
Why should "-infinity/infinity" be infinity?

What is the limit of
$$\lim_{s \to 0} \frac{\frac{-1}{2}}{\frac{2}{s}}$$?

-s/4, if s =0 then
Would't the limit be zero?
 
Sorry typo, this is the formula I meant:
$$\lim_{s \to 0} \frac{\frac{-1}{s}}{\frac{2}{s}}$$

But the more important part was the first question.
 
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mfb said:
Sorry typo, this is the formula I meant:
$$\lim_{s \to 0} \frac{\frac{-1}{s}}{\frac{2}{s}}$$

But the more important part was the first question.

For that formula it would be -1/2. I was thinking it would be infinity because you really can't put down a number with it unless maybe it is 1?

EDIT: Nvm go it. It ends up being -35/40. Thnx
 
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Tekneek said:
For that formula it would be -1/2.
That is not the point. It follows the "-infinity/infinity" type. It is easy to simplify it here to see the limit is not infinity, so your original idea cannot work - that was the purpose of the example.
I was thinking it would be infinity because you really can't put down a number with it unless maybe it is 1?
I don't understand that question.
EDIT: Nvm go it. It ends up being -35/40. Thnx
Okay.
 
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Why is the limit not just infinity?

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wouldn't it be (1-infinity)/(1+infinity)?

Whenever you write "infinity", you should write "a large number".

In this form (1 - a large number)/(1 + another large number) could be any negative number. It could be large and negative or it could be small and negative.
 
A very important property of limits, not emphasized enough as I think it should be, is that "If f(x)= g(x) for all x except x= a, then \lim_{x\to a} f(x)= \lim_{x\to a} g(x).

With this particular problem, we can, as long as n is not 0, multiply both numerator and denominator by n. That gives you \frac{s- 1}{s+ \frac{s+ 4}{7(s+ 5)}}. Now, take s= 0.
 
You lost two prefactors, HallsofIvy.

$$\frac{s- 1}{s+ \frac{10(2s+ 4)}{7(s+ 5)}}$$
 
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Thanks.
 
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The limit is of (s-1)/(s+(10*(2s+4)/7(s+5) that doing s=0 result in -7/15
 
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Garrulo said:
The limit is of (s-1)/(s+(10*(2s+4)/7(s+5) that doing s=0 result in -7/15
No, check your algebra. The answer in post #1 (-7/8) is correct.
 

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