Is the severity of a pathogenic illness dependent on the number of pathogens?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between pathogen concentration and the severity of infections. It raises questions about the critical number of pathogens required to trigger a full-blown illness, noting that even a single pathogen can sometimes cause significant disease. The severity of symptoms may vary based on the infection load, with higher concentrations generally leading to more severe symptoms. Additionally, the concentration of pathogens can differ between illnesses, influenced by factors such as the immune response and the resources available to the pathogen. The conversation also touches on the idea that unexploited niches in ecosystems or opportunities in economics tend to be filled, drawing parallels to how pathogens exploit available resources. Participants reference research papers that explore these dynamics, emphasizing the importance of understanding pathogenic concentration over time.
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And are there any research papers of models of this?

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How many pathogens are needed to cause a full-blown infection? A single disease pathogen, for example, is virtually harmless. But is there a critical value of the number of disease pathogens that are needed to cause an illness? And once that critical value is reached, is the severity of the illness related to the concentration of pathogens in key regions? Does the concentration of pathogens usually vary from illness to illness? (depending on onset of immune system response and on "resources" that the virus can exploit?) Are there any resources I could consult regarding the pathogenic concentration of an illness plotted as a function of time?
 
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How many pathogens are needed to cause a full-blown infection? A single disease pathogen, for example, is virtually harmless. But is there a critical value of the number of disease pathogens that are needed to cause an illness? And once that critical value is reached, is the severity of the illness related to the concentration of pathogens in key regions? Does the concentration of pathogens usually vary from illness to illness? (depending on onset of immune system response and on "resources" that the virus can exploit?) Are there any resources I could consult regarding the pathogenic concentration of an illness plotted as a function of time?

I varies from pathogen to pathogen, the severity of the symptoms might dependent on the dose depending on the infection load and in some cases one bacteria or one virus sufficient to cause a "full-blow" infection.

Here's two example

1 bacterium can cause the same disease level than 1000 bacteria
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WXK-4K1G5BJ-1&_user=10&_coverDate=01%2F31%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=ff7445963fa95f885d7b9b81c450ca65

Increase number of infection load increase symptoms
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TD4-44KD7M2-G&_user=10&_coverDate=12%2F12%2F2001&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=f5988da0dd66c5f4d108a521476b04d0
 
Interesting. It's as if whenever there is an unexploited niche, it's always going to be exploited (kind of like what evolutionary theory would predict with respect to unexploited ecosystems, or how economics would predict with respect to unexploited opportunities).
 
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