Is universe a 3 dimensional fractal .?

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The discussion explores the concept of the universe as a three-dimensional fractal, drawing parallels between fractals in nature and the structure of the cosmos. It suggests that the iterations of fractals could represent the expansion of the universe, especially in light of density fluctuations during cosmic inflation. Research indicates that the distribution of galaxies exhibits fractal-like properties, as evidenced by the scaling of galaxy counts within varying radii. The conversation highlights existing studies and tools that model the universe's structure, reinforcing the idea of a fractal dimension in cosmic distribution. Overall, the notion of a fractal universe remains a compelling topic in cosmology.
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Is universe a 3 dimensional fractal...?

Hi all,

Yesterday I was reading on fractals (2 dimensional). It was interesting to know leaves etc are examples of fractals ( for example : fern). So I thought if there is a possibility for 3 dimensional fractal. And as in any case which is distorted by noise (so that the fractal is not perfect, not 100% symmetric). Can we apply this model for ever growing , ever expanding universe? Can the iterations in fractal be thought of expansion of universe.

When I googled 'Is universe a 3D FRACTAL' I got a link http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14200-galaxy-map-hints-at-fractal-universe.html suggesting similar idea. I would like to hear your opinions.

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dexterdev said:
Can we apply this model for ever growing , ever expanding universe? Can the iterations in fractal be thought of expansion of universe.

Already been done. During inflation the density fluctuations produce something that is very much like a fractal. However at large scales, there are various things that cause the fractal to get cut out...

http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/PowerSpectrum.html

Here is an interactive build your own universe simulator

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/resources/camb_tool/index.html

The bar at the bottom marked "spectral index" is the fractal structure of the early universe. You plug in various fractions of "other stuff" and that gets the matter distribution of the universe.
 


Thanks for your links.
 


There has also been some research into the fractal dimension of the distribution of galaxies. What you do is you take a ball of radius R and count the number of galaxies inside. Then you change it's size and see how the number of galaxies scales. If the distribution is uniform and not fractal, then you would expect that the number of galaxies grows like the volume of the ball, or N ~ R3. But when you look at actual data, in small scales (of the order of 1 Mpc) the actual scaling is close to N ~ R2. This suggest a fractal-like distribution.
 


Thanks for sharing that idea
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombination_(cosmology) Was a matter density right after the decoupling low enough to consider the vacuum as the actual vacuum, and not the medium through which the light propagates with the speed lower than ##({\epsilon_0\mu_0})^{-1/2}##? I'm asking this in context of the calculation of the observable universe radius, where the time integral of the inverse of the scale factor is multiplied by the constant speed of light ##c##.
Why was the Hubble constant assumed to be decreasing and slowing down (decelerating) the expansion rate of the Universe, while at the same time Dark Energy is presumably accelerating the expansion? And to thicken the plot. recent news from NASA indicates that the Hubble constant is now increasing. Can you clarify this enigma? Also., if the Hubble constant eventually decreases, why is there a lower limit to its value?
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