# Is zero discrete?

1. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

Is zero discrete?

2. May 7, 2015

3. May 7, 2015

### HallsofIvy

I would think that any single object is "discrete", but perhaps I am using a different definition of "discrete".
What definition are you using?

4. May 7, 2015

### ShayanJ

Zero is a real number too!
Anyway, I think the question is meaningless. Discreteness isn't a property of a single number!

5. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

I have a simple counting question and the use of decimals. Possibly I want to count decimal fractions differently for the purposes of defining the range of something. A different number line of a kind? Folded eventually. Does this seem like a practical forum to ask this type of question?

6. May 7, 2015

7. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

Quantized. I'll open a new thread from here on

8. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

It is a quantity. Correct me if its not that please.

9. May 7, 2015

### ShayanJ

What is a quantity? If you mean discreteness, then no, its a concept!

10. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

I mean I can have zero of something

11. May 7, 2015

### HallsofIvy

You started by asking 'Is 0 discrete'. I asked what definition of 'discrete' you are using and you responded "quantized". That is a term used in Quantum Physics and is meaningless here. Now you are asking whether '0' is a quantity. Yes, if you ask a store owner, "how many boxes of cigars do you have", the store owner could well answer, 'none'. '0' is definitely a 'quantity'.

12. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

Like X.

13. May 7, 2015

### micromass

What is X?

14. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

I mean like a algebra teacher refers to the quantity X.

15. May 7, 2015

### micromass

You mean the variable X?

16. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

Yes but not variable Zero

17. May 7, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

Zero is not a variable -- it is a constant, just like 1 or 5 or -213.7 or $\pi$. A variable can represent an arbitrary number*. Zero is a very specific number.

* - My context here is elementary algebra of the real number line, so I'm not considering variables outside that realm.

18. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

i didn't state varied zero. Constant zero. I wasn't being funny

19. May 7, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

You said "variable Zero" in post #16, which I quote again, below. How else was I to interpret "variable Zero"?

20. May 7, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

Perhaps you could tell us what are studying and how you came to asking about zero being discrete.

21. May 7, 2015

### HallsofIvy

Every time you are asked to clarify something, you answer with another ambiguity. I am starting to think that this whole thread was just a joke. Your original question was "Is 0 discrete?" I asked what you meant by "discrete" and your response was "like X". Please tell us what you think the word "discrete" means!

22. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

It has the word not preceding that word

23. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

I'll try. If I can figure out the forum post editor for markup when I get the time on a computer right now it is cumbersome on iphone

24. May 7, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

Whatever.
What you said was extremely unclear. I have no idea what you're trying to say with "not variable Zero".

Back to the original question, "Is zero discrete?" A set of numbers that is separated is discrete, such as {0, 1, 2, ...,n, n + 1, ...} or {1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1, 5/4, ...}. I'm not sure it makes any sense to talk about a single number as being discrete.

25. May 7, 2015

### Atlas3

I was asking if zero is considered a discrete value meaning nil but countable. Wasn't asking a philosophical question or making a joke. Just asking if in numbers it is considered the same as any other. Discrete was the answer I received. And thanks the poster for the immediate answer.