Isomorphism without being told mapping

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a specific group of matrices, defined as G, is isomorphic to the group of integers Z. The focus is on finding a suitable mapping without being provided one, exploring theoretical and conceptual aspects of group isomorphism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the group G consisting of matrices of the form 1 n; 0 1 and expresses uncertainty about how to show it is isomorphic to Z.
  • Another participant suggests various approaches, including guessing, experimenting with arithmetic in G, or invoking theorems about homomorphisms from Z.
  • A third participant emphasizes the need to create a mapping, proposing a notation G(n) for the matrix representation, suggesting that this could lead to discovering the isomorphism.
  • A later reply confirms that the suggested approach was successful for them, indicating they found the isomorphism through the proposed notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific mapping but share ideas and approaches. There is a general agreement on the need to create a mapping, but the exact form of the isomorphism remains individually explored.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific assumptions or definitions required for the isomorphism, nor does it clarify any unresolved mathematical steps in the reasoning process.

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Given:

G is the group of matrices of the form:

1 n
0 1

Where n is an element of Z, and G is a group under matrix multiplication.

I must show that G is isomorphic to the group of integers Z. I do not know how to do this, since all examples we covered gave us the specific mapping from one group to the other.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Among your options are:
  • Guess.
  • Experiment with the arithmetic in G to understand it better.
  • Invoke theorems about homomorphisms from Z.
 
Basically, you need to come up with a mapping yourself. Here's a hint, create a notation such as G(n) represents the matrix with n in Z, in the first row second column. The ideal isomorphism should pop out at you now. Let me know if that helps!
 
NruJaC said:
Basically, you need to come up with a mapping yourself. Here's a hint, create a notation such as G(n) represents the matrix with n in Z, in the first row second column. The ideal isomorphism should pop out at you now. Let me know if that helps!

I managed to figure the problem out not too long ago. That is exactly what I decided to do. Thanks for confirming for me! Problem solved. :)
 

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