Isothermal increase in pressure of solids

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The discussion focuses on expressing work during an isothermal increase in pressure of a solid, specifically using the van der Waals equation. The equation W=Integral of PdV is highlighted, but challenges arise in separating dP and dV for substitution. An alternative empirical equation of state for solids is suggested, which includes temperature and pressure dependencies. The van der Waals equation is primarily applicable to gases, raising questions about its validity for solids.

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  • Understanding of the van der Waals equation
  • Familiarity with thermodynamic work calculations
  • Knowledge of empirical equations of state for solids
  • Basic principles of isothermal processes
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  • Research the empirical equation of state for solids: V(p,T) = a + bT + cT^2 - d(p) + e(pT)
  • Study the application of the van der Waals equation in different states of matter
  • Explore thermodynamic work calculations in isothermal processes
  • Investigate alternative equations of state for solids beyond the van der Waals equation
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Homework Statement



How do you express work in an isothermal increase of pressure of a solid in terms of the initial and final pressure?

Homework Equations



van der waals equation

W=Integral of PdV

(P-na/v^2)(v-nb)=nKT

P=pressure
V=volume
n=number of molecules(constant)
T=temperature(constant)

The Attempt at a Solution



d/dV[(P-na/V^2)(V-nb)=nKT]*

The problem here is that dP and dV are very hard to separate so it is hard to substitute dP in W=integral of PdV.
 
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(i) Why are you using the Van der waal equation of state for a solid, as it's usually valid only for real gases?

(ii) From my thermodynamics course, one of the empirical equation of states I used for a solid was

V(p,T) = a +bT +cT^2 - d (p) + e (p T)

where a,b,c,d,e are empirical constants depending on the substance.

This is valid for a fairly wide range of T and P. You should be able to find this in a handbook or a table. (or, http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/dyoung/topics-orig/eq_state.html" )
 
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I was really doubtful using the van der waals equation because most of the problems I encountered used this equation and it just so happened that all of them involved gases though I wasn't sure if van der waals was just limited to real gases. I thought it was a general equation. :)

I tried looking for an equation for solids but I just keep finding the van der waals eqn and the ideal gas eqn.

Anyway thanks, I'll try to use this and find an expression of work and I'll post it here.
 

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