Japan Earthquake: Nuclear Plants at Fukushima Daiichi

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The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant is facing significant challenges following the earthquake, with reports indicating that reactor pressure has reached dangerous levels, potentially 2.1 times capacity. TEPCO has lost control of pressure at a second unit, raising concerns about safety and management accountability. The reactor is currently off but continues to produce decay heat, necessitating cooling to prevent a meltdown. There are conflicting reports about an explosion, with indications that it may have originated from a buildup of hydrogen around the containment vessel. The situation remains serious, and TEPCO plans to flood the containment vessel with seawater as a cooling measure.
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The following document from IAEA meeting does not contain new information, but I found it to be a handy compendium of stuff we have seen in a variety of other documents. It includes the graphs which show estimated release from each reactor, and total estimated release rates from site over the first couple of weeks of the disaster.

http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Meetings/PDFplus/2011/cn200/working-sessions/w_d1_K.Hirose.pdf
 
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tsutsuji said:
<..>Yet only one valve was wrong.

Tepco provides a diagram explaining the mistake : http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110623_01-e.pdf

Good old Murphy. Does the 3 mSv/h radiation observed on June 21st and 15 mSv/h on June 22nd represent the radioactive contamination density of the water leaving the tower, or the amount absorbed in it?
 
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MadderDoc said:
Good old Murphy. Does the 3 mSv/h radiation observed on June 21st and 15 mSv/h on June 22nd represent the radioactive contamination density of the water leaving the tower, or the amount absorbed in it?

From http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20110623/t10013703941000.html , it is impossible to say if this is a measurement made before or after flushing, and at which absorption tower these radiations were observed. My best guess is that it was at one of the iodine removal towers because they say "the most downstream tower", but it could be the most downstream of the 4 cesium removal towers.

I am still trying to figure out where these sensors are located. Are they on the inner side or on the outer side of the concrete shield ? If the purpose is to figure out how much radiations the workers are facing when working nearby, I would tend to think that they must be located outside the shield.

There is a section view of the towers here : http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110619_04-e.pdf but I am looking forward for a drawing with the location of the radiation sensor.
 
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Interesting: reactor 2 water level sensor is "under inspection" and there is no data, so maybe they are recalibrating it ? If yes we should know soon what is real water level
 
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tsutsuji said:
From http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20110623/t10013703941000.html , it is impossible to say if this is a measurement made before or after flushing, and at which absorption tower these radiations were observed. My best guess is that it was at one of the iodine removal towers because they say "the most downstream tower", but it could be the most downstream of the 4 cesium removal towers.

Yes. In the immediate context I took it to express the puzzlement by observing high radiation in the most downstream of the cesium removal towers in operation (which they then thought had all been connected in series.) But then they found out that what was thought to be the most downstream tower, was actually not. Due to wrong valve settings it had been shunted across the other towers in operation, and hence it carried most of the flow. That's why I was interested in knowing if the figures meant it had absorbed most of the load of contaminant having most of the load injected to it -- or alternatively that it had been overloaded by this heavier load and therefore no longer retained the contaminant as efficiently.

I am still trying to figure out where these sensors are located. Are they on the inner side or on the outer side of the concrete shield ? If the purpose is to figure out how much radiations the workers are facing when working nearby, I would tend to think that they must be located outside the shield.

There is a section view of the towers here : http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110619_04-e.pdf but I am looking forward for a drawing with the location of the radiation sensor.

Again from the context it would seem to me implied that the higher than expected radiation at least inconvenienced the work, and could be taken as a proxy for potential exposure. I suppose sensors outside the shield at the outlet from towers could be used for assessing the decontamination factor too, in which case sensors could serve both purposes.
 
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jim hardy said:
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That's what happened to those poor guys laying cables - they just didnt know to stay away from water. Their feet took a big dose but fortunately Betas mostly go only skin deep.

(snip)

old jim


Has there ever been an update published on the progress and current condition of those guys?



As well as not knowing to stay away from water (I think they had to paddle in it anyway to do their work - plus they had not been supplied with suitable boots).

My dad had a skin cancer zapped with beta rays (he'd fooled around too much with UV lamps in the 1930's). The treatment was effective - but you really would not want a burn like his over anything other than a very small area.
 
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There are no updates on any of the workers killed or injured since 311
 
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elektrownik said:
Interesting: reactor 2 water level sensor is "under inspection" and there is no data, so maybe they are recalibrating it ? If yes we should know soon what is real water level

They are doing pretty much the same at 2 as they did previously at 1.

As far as the water level goes, this is likely to result in confirmation that water level lower than previously reported, but as they've already done an analysis based on this possibility, this probably won't generate the sort of interest that it did when it happened with reactor 1.

As for pressure, again it is likely to be less interesting than reactor 1 because the pressure has been showing as negligible for a long time anyways.

But yeah, they are doing the work, because the other day they posted a diagram of the new pressure indicator setup, as they did with reactor 1:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110622_01-e.pdf

And a photo of them working on this:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110623_04-e.pdf

And a photo of some shielding they have installed to protect workers in this area (an issue I touched on recently here in the discussion about what dose workers would actually receive)

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110623_03-e.pdf
 
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Well it looks like they are really pushing the plan to reduce water injection rate to the reactors as far as they can.

According to latest status update, as of 11am on June 23rd, rates are:

Reactor 1 3.5m3/h
Reactor 2 3.5m3/h
Reactor 3 9.4-9.5m3/h

Taken from http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110623_06-e.pdf which also has reference to some other stuff mentioned on this thread very recently:

On June 22, we installed Reactor Temporary Pressure Meter of Unit 2.

On June 23, we injected water into instrumentation piping arrangement of Reactor Temporary Pressure Meter of Unit 2. We also installed hoses in the nitrogen injection line of Reactor Containment Vessel of Unit 2.
 
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Calvadosser said:

Has there ever been an update published on the progress and current condition of those guys?

I can't find a decent link for it, but I do remember reading that they received a whole body dose of around 180 mSv and were released from hospital a few days later.
 
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Thank you for all your informative replies to my questions about the exposure of workers (https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3370408&postcount=10172").

It is good to see that they are putting measures in place to reduce exposure too.
SteveElbows said:
And a photo of some shielding they have installed to protect workers in this area (an issue I touched on recently here in the discussion about what dose workers would actually receive)

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110623_03-e.pdf

I am sure Tepco are managing the exposure of workers better than this, but the possibility of receiving your annual (emergency) dose in 8 hours puts the task facing those workers in context.
 
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Bandit127 said:
I can't find a decent link for it, but I do remember reading that they received a whole body dose of around 180 mSv and were released from hospital a few days later.

This was about two other workers, not those from turbine building water...
This is interesting, reactor 2 released biggest amount of radiation (into basement water), ant there is interesting thing, unit 1 which doesn't have such big power like 2,3 increase temperature when they reduced amount of injected water, but it look like it doesn't make difference for unit 2, the temperature is stable, so there is question where core is now, some peoples think that it is in reactor basement, this would explain extream water contamination and no change in temperature...
 
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elektrownik said:
This was about two other workers, not those from turbine building water...

I think it was those from the turbine building water.

I found a link. Not to the report that they were released from hospital, but it does describe their estimated dose.
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032503-e.html"

It says they ignored their radiation alarms. The mind boggles...
 
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Crane's back. 21:30 GMT. Nothing on the TEPCO camera.
crane2.jpg
 
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Here is the report from NHK saying the workers were released from the hospital on the 28th of March. Says the two workers received localized exposures of between 2 to 3 sieverts. There was one other worker with them who was not standing in water at the time. He was in the hospital for observation, but was also sent home due to no apparent exposure and no symptoms.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110328/saishin07.html
 
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zapperzero said:
Crane's back. 21:30 GMT. Nothing on the TEPCO camera.
View attachment 36675

As seen from the south webcam, the upper part of this large crane appears to have been raised on Jun 23 03:00 GMT (12:00 JST), the lower part of it had been raised about 24 hours earlier.
 
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MadderDoc said:
As seen from the south webcam, the upper part of this large crane appears to have been raised on Jun 23 03:00 GMT (12:00 JST), the lower part of it had been raised about 24 hours earlier.

Thanks. How did you get at this info?
 
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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20110624/t10013730411000.html : the solution envisioned by Tepco for the water treatment system is to run it even if the radiation rises higher than the 4 mSv/h target value, and to perform a 2 hour long flushing in order to lower the radiation whenever cartridges need to be changed. The problem is that during flushing the system is stopped and this curtails the quantity of water that can be treated over a given unit of time.
 
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tsutsuji said:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20110624/t10013730411000.html : the solution envisioned by Tepco for the water treatment system is to run it even if the radiation rises higher than the 4 mSv/h target value, and to perform a 2 hour long flushing in order to lower the radiation whenever cartridges need to be changed. The problem is that during flushing the system is stopped and this curtails the quantity of water that can be treated over a given unit of time.

A two hour hiatus does not seem too bad, unless it has to take place several times each day. If memory serves, the initial thought had been a bi weekly change of the filter media, just by pulling the old skids.
Presumably the skids could be changed out very quickly, assuming appropriate water line couplings and skid handling provisions.
Does anyone know how many skid sets are available?
 
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SteveElbows said:
And a photo of some shielding they have installed to protect workers in this area (an issue I touched on recently here in the discussion about what dose workers would actually receive)

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110623_03-e.pdf

It remembers me a little bit the hi-tech methods from the soviet guys in Chernobyl...
 
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etudiant said:
A two hour hiatus does not seem too bad, unless it has to take place several times each day. If memory serves, the initial thought had been a bi weekly change of the filter media, just by pulling the old skids.
Presumably the skids could be changed out very quickly, assuming appropriate water line couplings and skid handling provisions.
Does anyone know how many skid sets are available?

According to http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/press/2011/06/en20110615-3.pdf the plan is to treat 230,000 m³ of contaminated water with "about 400" absorption towers during "approximately one year".

The same document also said :

The Cesium adsorption bars must be changed at a rate of 2-4 bars per day; therefore, the shielding facilities will be internal. Even if there is still some processing capacity remaining, the Cesium bars are managed by replacing them when the surface dosage is a maximum of 40mSv/h, and the exposure at the time of replacement is controlled at a maximum of 4mSv/h.
http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/press/2011/06/en20110615-3.pdf

These figures don't appear to be consistent: 2 bars per day during one year makes 2*365=730 bars which is more than 400.

TEPCO is plugging holes in the roofs of the turbine buildings and stacking sandbags to prevent rain water from entering the facility.

(...)

It says it has so far processed around 2,500 tons of radioactive water with the system. On Friday, it began work to desalinate treated water with the aim of recycling it to cool down the overheating reactors.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/24_19.html

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110624_01-e.pdf : a timetable with details on the volumes of contaminated water treated so far at the water treatment facility, with each processing time, flushing time, and test conditions.

http://twitpic.com/5ejt3u : a more detailed map (shown to journalists during the NISA press conference) of the water treatment facility (the reactor is the box in the top left corner. The Toshiba oil removing system is on the left, the Areva system is in the middle, the Kurion system is on the right side, and the Hitachi desalinating facility on the top ; in between the various tanks are shown)

http://sankei.jp.msn.com/region/news/110624/fks11062412310001-n1.htm The T-hawk helicopter drone made an emergency landing on the top of unit 2 reactor building. No smoke or blaze was reported. They plan to rescue it with a crane.

NISA press conference 2011.06.24 11:10 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15577343 : it is expected that the original primary circuit at the unit 1 SFP cooling system can be reused instead of creating a new one as was previously thought. Tepco provided a report on the safety issues concerning the cover for unit 1 : http://www.meti.go.jp/press/2011/06/20110624005/20110624005-2.pdf : the roof can bear the weight of 30 cm of snow. The average maximum wind speeds recorded during the past 10 years being 17 m/s, the structure is designed to withstand 25 m/s winds. It is a "C class building" as regards the earthquake safety. 6 air-filtering units with a 10,000m³/h capacity each will be installed, providing a total capacity of 40,000m³/h (4 units are active, 2 spare units are inactive). There will be a nozzle in the roof, that can be used to pour water into the spent fuel pool. Thermometers will measure the air temperature inside the cover. Cameras will watch the spent fuel pool. Radiation sensors and hydrogen sensors will be installed (sensor locations are shown on the figure page 8). The tsunami wall will be completed by the time the cover structure is finished. The cover sheet material respects the relevant fire resistance standard. The roof and panels could be opened for fire-fighting purposes. The walls of the reactor building will be coated with a dust fixating material beforehand. Even if the cover structure collapses, the added weight is not enough to curtail the reactor building's earthquake or wind resistance. The temperature is expected to rise inside the reactor building, and on a case by case basis spot-coolers will be installed. The humidity is not expected to rise because it will be absorbed by the air-filtering system.

http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuclear/pdf/20110624-2nisa.pdf : original fax sent by plant manager Yoshida to notify nuclear accident as required by law. It is dated 11 March 16:00 by the fax machine. It says: all AC power is lost ; all units 1~5: all diesel generators are out of order. Unit 6: only one diesel generator is safe. Generators tripped because their seawater cooling system was inundated.
 
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SteveElbows said:
Analysis of the spent fuel pool water at reactor 1 is out:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110624_02-e.pdf

Numbers are a fair bit lower than for reactor 3 pool ( http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110510e12.pdf )

But way, way higher than for reactor 4 pool ( http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110509e3.pdf )

Well, it looks like reactor 4 pool is almost "clean". Perhaps due to repeated massive clean water injection through concrete pump? (which would mean most of the cesium/iodine escaped through evaporation).

About unit 1 & 3 pools, is it possible that the contamination would come mainly from fallen debris and/or initial venting operations?
 
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SteveElbows said:
Analysis of the spent fuel pool water at reactor 1 is out:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_110624_02-e.pdf

Numbers are a fair bit lower than for reactor 3 pool ( http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110510e12.pdf )

But way, way higher than for reactor 4 pool ( http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110509e3.pdf )

Comparing it to the water in the basements of the same units:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/cc/press/betu11_j/images/110603a.pdf

the cesium levels in both the unit 1 and unit 3 spent fuel pools are roughly an order of a magnitude lower than in the water in the reactor building basement / turbine hall basement. Perhaps contaminated steam condensed in both the basement and the spent fuel pool, but at higher doses in the basement.
 
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