Joint Probability density function

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The discussion revolves around finding the joint probability density function (pdf) for the random variables W=XY and Z=Y/X, given a specific joint pdf for x and y. The context involves the use of integrals and the consideration of absolute values in the joint pdf.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the integration of the joint pdf and question the validity of using the Jacobian due to the presence of absolute values. There are attempts to break down the integral into manageable parts while considering different quadrants for x and y.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the use of the Jacobian and the necessity of ensuring the integral equals one for it to be a valid pdf. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to handle the absolute values in the joint pdf.

Contextual Notes

One participant expresses confusion about the necessity of using the Jacobian and the implications of absolute values in the calculations. Additionally, there is a note regarding the posting of similar questions in multiple threads, which may affect the flow of discussion.

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A joint pdf is given as pxy(x,y)=(1/4)^2 exp[-1/2 (|x| + |y|)] for x and y between minus and plus infinity.

Find the joint pdf W=XY and Z=Y/X.

f(w,z)=∫∫f(x,y)=∫∫(1/4)^2*e^(-(|x|+|y|)/2)dxdy -∞<x,y<∞
Someone told me I can not use Jacobian because of the absolute value. Is that true?
So far this is what I have but I feel like I am not going anywhere.

f(w,z)=(1/4)^2∫∫e^(-(|x|+|y|)/2)dxdy
=(1/4)^2∫∫[e^-|x|/2]*e^-|y|/2]
=(1/4)^2∫[e^-|x|/2]∫e^-|y|/2]

=(1/4)^2[∫[e^(-x/2)+∫e^(x/2))] * [∫[e^(-y/2)+∫e^(y/2))] the limits from -∞<x,y<0 and 0<x,y<∞

=[(1/4)^2 ]*4*[ ∫ [e^(x/2)dx] + ∫ [e^(y/2)dy] ] 0<x,y<∞
 
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marina87 said:
f(w,z)=∫∫f(x,y)=∫∫(1/4)^2*e^(-(|x|+|y|)/2)dxdy -∞<x,y<∞
∫∫f(x,y)=1, or it would not be a pdf.
You can use the Jacobian, provided you consider it separately in each quadrant (so that the |x| and |y| can be resolved).
 
marina87 said:
A joint pdf is given as pxy(x,y)=(1/4)^2 exp[-1/2 (|x| + |y|)] for x and y between minus and plus infinity.

Find the joint pdf W=XY and Z=Y/X.

f(w,z)=∫∫f(x,y)=∫∫(1/4)^2*e^(-(|x|+|y|)/2)dxdy -∞<x,y<∞
Someone told me I can not use Jacobian because of the absolute value. Is that true?
So far this is what I have but I feel like I am not going anywhere.

f(w,z)=(1/4)^2∫∫e^(-(|x|+|y|)/2)dxdy
=(1/4)^2∫∫[e^-|x|/2]*e^-|y|/2]
=(1/4)^2∫[e^-|x|/2]∫e^-|y|/2]

=(1/4)^2[∫[e^(-x/2)+∫e^(x/2))] * [∫[e^(-y/2)+∫e^(y/2))] the limits from -∞<x,y<0 and 0<x,y<∞

=[(1/4)^2 ]*4*[ ∫ [e^(x/2)dx] + ∫ [e^(y/2)dy] ] 0<x,y<∞

Why did you post this same question in two different threads and ignore the response in your first thread?
 
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