Jordan's Lemma technicalities - where does sin(mz) go

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The discussion revolves around the application of Jordan's Lemma in complex analysis, particularly focusing on the behavior of integrals involving exponential functions and their relation to trigonometric identities. Participants are examining the transition between specific equations in lecture notes and questioning the treatment of the sine function in this context.

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  • Participants are exploring the implications of using the exponential form of complex numbers and questioning the disappearance of the sine term in the integral. They are also discussing the nature of the variable m and its relation to the degree of polynomial functions in the context of integration.

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Some participants express understanding regarding the sine term's vanishing due to properties of odd functions, while others seek clarification on the role of the variable m in different functions. There appears to be a productive exploration of these concepts, though no consensus has been reached on the implications of m.

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There is mention of specific lecture notes that guide the discussion, and participants are referencing the behavior of integrals over infinite limits. The distinction between constants and variables in the context of integration is also being examined.

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I don't understand why it's so great m>0 here

http://gyazo.com/cfa21b39653275a38ec80722b7faa58b
From these lectures notes (I think they are generally pretty good)

Where has the sin(mz) gone?

When going from 4.67 to 4.68 has

e^imz = cos(mz) + isin(mz) been used? I'm guessing that was the trick, but I don't see where sin(mz) has pootled off to?
 
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thomas49th said:

Homework Statement



I don't understand why it's so great m>0 here

http://gyazo.com/cfa21b39653275a38ec80722b7faa58b
From these lectures notes (I think they are generally pretty good)

Where has the sin(mz) gone?

When going from 4.67 to 4.68 has

e^imz = cos(mz) + isin(mz) been used?
Yes.
thomas49th said:
I'm guessing that was the trick, but I don't see where sin(mz) has pootled off to?

Instead of looking at ##\int \frac{cos(mx)dx}{a^2 + x^2}##, the writer of the notes is looking at ##\int \frac{e^{mz}dz}{a^2 + z^2}## and getting a value. He also notes that the complex part, which contains the sin(mx) numerator, turns out to be zero, due to the fact that the integrand is an odd function. The integral of an odd function over (-∞, ∞) is zero.
 
thomas49th said:

Homework Statement



I don't understand why it's so great m>0 here

http://gyazo.com/cfa21b39653275a38ec80722b7faa58b
From these lectures notes (I think they are generally pretty good)

Where has the sin(mz) gone?

When going from 4.67 to 4.68 has

e^imz = cos(mz) + isin(mz) been used? I'm guessing that was the trick, but I don't see where sin(mz) has pootled off to?

At the bottom he says that the sin(mx) integral vanishes, leaving only the cos(mx) part. It says that right in the document!

RGV
 
I think I'm happy with the sin(mx) disappearing. The m variable is causing me grief now:

So for the variable m, what decides it. If I'm given a functions like

1/(x+1)^4

is the variable m in the e^imz equal to the overall degree of the function

ie would m=2 if

x^2/(x+1)^4 was my function?

Thanks
Thomas
 
Neither m nor a is a variable - both are constants as far as the integration is concerned. The only variables are x and z.
 

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