Joule free adiabatic expansion dT=0?

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In the discussed experiment, it is clarified that internal energy can remain unchanged during expansion only under isothermal conditions, while adiabatic expansion or heat loss can alter this. When expanding into a vacuum, no work is done and, consequently, internal energy and temperature remain constant for an ideal gas. Joule's experiment confirmed that for ideal gases, internal energy is solely a function of temperature, resulting in no temperature change during specific conditions. However, for real gases, this relationship is more complex and varies slightly. The discussion also touches on the implications of conducting endothermic reactions adiabatically, questioning whether temperature would drop in such scenarios.
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In that experiment , the internal energy is zero , volume increase , pressure of system decrease, then temperature will constant ?

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Nope, not guaranteed. The expansion can also be adiabatic, or heat can even be loss while work is done by the gas.

Only an isothermal expansion guarantees no change in internal energy.
 
greswd said:
Nope, not guaranteed. The expansion can also be adiabatic, or heat can even be loss while work is done by the gas.

Only an isothermal expansion guarantees no change in internal energy.

Then when it expand to vacuum?
No work will be done because the external pressure is zero.
Internal energy will not change as no heat enter, no work done
Will the temperature change ?
 
Outrageous said:
Then when it expand to vacuum?
No work will be done because the external pressure is zero.
Internal energy will not change as no heat enter, no work done
Will the temperature change ?

That depends.

Since w = 0 and q = 0 for the experiment that Joule performed, the change in internal energy U was also 0.
Joule measured the temperature change to also be 0.
The conclusion was that for an ideal gas, the internal energy U is a function of temperature only.

For a real gas, that is no longer true but varies slightly.

Here is some reading for you.
http://www.chem.arizona.edu/~salzmanr/480a/480ants/jadjte/jadjte.html
 
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Then the answer for this thread is dT= 0 for ideal gas.

When a chemical endothermic reaction is carried out, then heat from the surrounding is absorbed , that is why the container of the chemical solution feel cold.
I wondered if I carry out the same experiment adiabatically, will the temperature of chemical solution drop?
 
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