What Happens When a Dirtbike Jumps off a Moving Train?

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When a dirtbike jumps off a moving train, the rider would fall straight down, similar to being dropped from the height of the train. Despite this, the bike's wheels would still be spinning at 12 m/s, causing the bike to lurch forward upon landing. The front wheel would likely drop first, leading to a back-over-front rotation of the bike. Discussions also touched on the implications of relative velocities and the potential for advanced stunts in freestyle motocross. Overall, the physics involved highlights the complexity and excitement of such maneuvers.
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i wondered what would happen if you took f.eks. your dirtbike on top of a moving train, drove against the rear end of the train (backwards), and made sure you had 0 velocity compared to the ground. if the train is moving north at 12m/s and you are moving south at 12m/s, will your dirtbike "stand still" when you jump/fall of the train?
 
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Exactly. You would fall straight down, just as if someone had simply dropped you from "train-height" (not recommended).
 
thank you!
 
I'd stock up on the Preparation H first...
 
An intrepid young student named Raleigh
Deserted a fast moving traleigh
To discover a flaw
In Newton's first law
but his efforts were faleigh, by galeigh.
 
:smile:
 
Archosaur said:
Exactly. You would fall straight down, just as if someone had simply dropped you from "train-height" (not recommended).

Your wheels however would still be spinning at 12 m/s. You'd fall straight down but immediately lurch forward.
 
Was that a dig?!
 
Not in the least. A lurch backwards, maybe.
 
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skeptic2 said:
Your wheels however would still be spinning at 12 m/s. You'd fall straight down but immediately lurch forward.

Also, your front wheel would start falling first, because it would come off the train first, and so the bike would also rotate slowly, back-over-front. :smile:
 
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skeptic2 and tiny-tim are both right, of course.

I was just talking about relative velocities.
 
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jumping off a FAST object

tiny-tim said:
your front wheel would start falling first, because it would come off the train first
Not if the rider leans back at that point. What would really be neat is if the train is going faster than the bike, so the jumper needs to do a 180 in midair and lands on the ground chasing the train :smile:
 
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Interesting concept, that made me smile...

If this is the inevitable future of Freestyle Motorcross stunts I'll be damn happy. They already have such great senses to things like rotation and velocity, it's actually quite beautiful to watch. It would be wildly pleasing to see such a vast inprovement in skill due to the knowledge and reliability of such physics because it's sports like these that I feel show the absolute peak of human ability. Certain things are only possible if you risk your life and it's amazing to see that these guys can do them.

Please enjoy, for the physics. Calculation at it's best...

 
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skeptic2 said:
Your wheels however would still be spinning at 12 m/s. You'd fall straight down but immediately lurch forward.
You would not lurch. The wheels have too little momentum to cause any appreciable lurch.

Also, your front wheel would start falling first, because it would come off the train first, and so the bike would also rotate slowly, back-over-front.
I think a cyclist would be quite hard-pressed to not automatically compensate for this.
 
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