Just some conceptual stuff about car crashes

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual problem related to inelastic collisions, specifically examining the dynamics of a car and a truck colliding while carrying dummies. The scenario includes details about the masses of the vehicles and dummies, their velocities, and the nature of the collision.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between momentum changes and the forces experienced by the dummies during the collision. Questions arise regarding the differing experiences of the dummies compared to the vehicles, particularly in terms of momentum conservation and the effects of deceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the mechanics of the collision, noting that the forces experienced by the dummies depend on the deceleration of the vehicles and their relative motion. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities involved in explaining the differing outcomes for the dummies versus the vehicles.

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Participants are considering the implications of inelastic collisions and the specific interactions between the dummies and the vehicle interiors, as well as the assumptions regarding momentum conservation in different contexts.

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Homework Statement



During a crash test, dummy x12 has a mass of 80 kg and rides in a 1120-kg car. Dummy y17 has a mass of 80 kg and rides in a 7120-kg truck. The vehicles approach each other with velocities of 30 m/s (about 67 miles per hour) in opposite directions (car heading east). The vehicles collide and their bumpers lock together after the collision. The collision takes 0.015 s to complete.

-You should find that while the car and truck undergo equal and opposite changes in momentum and are subject to equal and opposite forces, this is not true for the dummies. Explain why this is so.

Homework Equations



\DeltaP = Ft
P = mv

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I did out all the momentum and force work for the cars, but I'm just not sure conceptually how to explain this. It makes logical sense dealing with inelastic collisions, and we constantly see this happen in real life where a passenger is a car is severely injured when hit by a truck/bus/larger object. Any help? I don't think I should be proving this with math, but even so, I'm not sure how. Any ideas?
 
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The forces that the dummies will experience depends on the decelerations of the vehicles during the collision. That is they only experience the force when they hit the inside front of the vehicle - which transfers the force to the dummies via the difference in relative motion between the two (dummy and vehicle). These decelerations will differ due to the different masses of the vehicles since both vehicles experiences the same magnitude of force at all times during the collision.
 
i figured it out: its because during the collision between the car+truck, its inelastic so momentum is conserved and thus forces is conserved as well (impulse = Ft); however, the two dummies never actually collide with each other and thus do not conserve momentum. Instead the dummies collide with the dashboard/windshield/ground/steering-wheel/soda bottle in front seat.
 
The forces between the two vehicles are also "generated" due to the difference in their relative motions.
 

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