Kinematics: Analyzing circular motion of a particle

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The discussion focuses on analyzing circular motion using SUVAT equations, specifically in the context of initial velocity and vector components. Participants emphasize the importance of plotting velocity components over time and correctly applying trigonometric principles to understand motion direction. There is a debate about the use of angles and slopes in determining relationships between coordinates, particularly in relation to the northeast direction. The correct interpretation of angles and slopes is clarified, with the tangent function being highlighted as essential for understanding the relationship between vertical and horizontal components. Overall, the conversation underscores the need for precise mathematical representation and understanding of vector motion.
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Homework Statement
A particle moves with constant acceleration and its velocity at time t :

v= (5-0.1t)i +(3+0.2t)j

1. find a, u

2. find the time t when particle is travelling in direction NE and find its speed.

3. find the distance and bearing of the particle from the starting point at that time.
Relevant Equations
SUVAT, TRIG, Bearing
Help please
 
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Hello @Edward Hillsby, :welcome: !

Apparently you know about SUVAT. Which ones in particular can be used here ?

Edward Hillsby said:
Help please
Sure! However, there are some requirements to get help at PF. Read here:smile: what is u anyway ? [edit] ah ! ##v_0## !

Tip: Make a plot !
 
u/initial velocity =v0, u is popular and very common in UK

SUVAT: v=u+at, r= r0+u0t+1/2 a t^2
 
UK is using inches and still has some catching up to do :-p

So: you know ##v = u + at## and you know ##v.\ \ ## What can be easier ?
BvU said:
Tip: Make a plot !
 
I am not sure how to use trig for the NE direction. It is 45 degree or pi/4, slope= 1
 
Tip: Make a plot ! All will be revealed !
 
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is it vy sin 45=uy+ayt?, it does not work. What plot?
 
Edward Hillsby said:
is it vy sin 45=uy+ayt?, it does not work
No. ##v_y = u_y + a_y t\ \ ## and ##\ v_x = u_x + a_x t ##

I am beginnning to fear you overlook the vector character of ##\vec r, \ \vec v,\ \vec a ## ?

Edward Hillsby said:
What plot?
v= (5-0.1t)i +(3+0.2t)j ##\ \ ## You know what the ##\ \hat\imath\ ## and ## \ \hat\jmath\ ## stand for ?
Plot ##v_y(t)## as a function of ##v_x(t)## for ##t=0, 1, ...15## sMay I also advise you to use super- and subscripts ?
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It is working. Thanks, guys from yahoo and overflow struggle to answer. I did not overlook vectors, but was to obsessed with trigs. 1 smart mathematician got similar result, using trigs: tangent, arcus tangent and got assumption pi/4=r_y/r_x...ry=(pi_*r_x)/4...is it right? I do not know what is different between ry and r_y. Thanks
 
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Edward Hillsby said:
It is working.
Without the plot ? :cry:

Edward Hillsby said:
1 smart mathematician got similar result
For what ?
Edward Hillsby said:
pi/4=r_y/r_x...ry=(pi_*r_x)/4...is it right?
I don'know if it's right. But intellegible it sure isn't :biggrin:
 
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so, can angle in certain condition, here slope =1, be expressed by opposite/adjacent in right angle triangle? It mean angle = tangent??
 
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Edward Hillsby said:
so, can angle in certain condition, here slope =1, be expressed by opposite/adjacent in right angle triangle? It mean angle = tangent??
The slope is the tangent of the angle. An angle π/4 gives a slope of 1. tan(π/4)=1.
Edward Hillsby said:
pi/4=r_y/r_x...ry=(pi_*r_x)/4...is it right?
I assume you are using rx, ry for coordinates of position.
ry=(π/4)rx would mean the position is a bit E of NE from the origin (ry<rx), so it is wrong on two counts:
1. For exactly NE you would want the coordinates equal. I.e. (ry/rx)=1=tan(π/4).
2. The condition you should be applying is that the velocity is NE.
 
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thanks
 
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