Lagrangian of conic pendulum-rod

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The discussion focuses on deriving the kinetic energy of a conic pendulum-rod system with two degrees of freedom: theta (the angle with gravity) and phi (the angle around the vertical axis). The user attempts to express the kinetic energy using spherical coordinates but is uncertain about the correct formulation, particularly regarding the variable 'r'. They seek clarification on how to represent the kinetic energy solely in terms of theta, theta-dot, and phi-dot, while ensuring it aligns with the system's dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the need for a proper understanding of the relationship between the angles and their derivatives in the context of the pendulum's motion. Overall, the goal is to accurately express the kinetic energy function for the given system.
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So, basically there is a stick, mass m and length l, that is pivoted at its top end, and swings around the vertical axis with angular frequency omega. The stick always makes an angle theta with the direction of gravity. I am told there are 2 degrees of freedom (theta, phi), with phi being the angle around the 'equator' (see attached picture). Phi-dot=omega.

a) Determine the kinetic energy and show that it is given by a function of the type T(phi-dot, theta-dot, theta).

The attempt at a solution

I assume I am supposed to use spherical coordinates for theta and phi, so it should look something like:

T=\frac{1}{2}m(\dot r^2 + r^2\dot \theta^2 + r^2sin^2(\theta)(\dot \phi)^2)

But we know that the kinetic energy of the pendulum only depends on theta, theta-dot, and phi-dot. So how should it look?

Thanks for your help.
 

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