Leg muscles’ force as a system of levers

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The discussion focuses on breaking down total force exerted by leg muscles into individual forces for each muscle group using principles of biomechanics. Participants emphasize the need to apply inverse dynamics to derive external joint torques from ground reaction forces, followed by muscle optimization to determine the specific muscle forces. The software OpenSim is recommended for modeling these dynamics, particularly when simplifying the problem to a 2D scenario with fewer muscles. The conversation clarifies that this is an underdetermined problem, necessitating the specification of an optimization criterion for a unique solution.

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How can I calculate the force exerted by each muscle group in a jump?
If I know a person has exerted total force F with their legs and I’m interested in breaking down said force in smaller forces exerted for each involved muscle group - how can I do it? With a basic level of understanding of human anatomy I can divide the leg as a series of levers but how can I specifically find force exerted by each lever?

EDIT: I’m aware “smaller” is not the correct word, but still..
 
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KataruZ98 said:
If I know a person has exerted total force F with their legs and I’m interested in breaking down said force in smaller forces exerted for each involved muscle group - how can I do it? With a basic level of understanding of human anatomy I can divide the leg as a series of levers but how can I specifically find force exerted by each lever?
Note that this is an underdetermined problem, so you need to specify an optimization criterion to get a unique solution. You use inverse-dynamics to get the external joint torques from the ground reaction force, and then muscle optimization to get the muscle forces that balance these external torques.

You can use software for that:
https://simtk.org/projects/opensim

If you simplify it to 2D and just a few muscles, then you might get something that you can solve by hand.
 
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A.T. said:
Note that this is an undermined problem, so you need to specify an optimization criterion to get a unique solution. You use inverse-dynamics to get the external joint torques from the ground reaction force, and then muscle optimization to get the muscle forces that balance these external torques.

You can use software for that:
https://simtk.org/projects/opensim

If you simplify it to 2D and just a few muscles, then you might get something that you can solve by hand.
Ah, I see. Thank you very much, I’ll see what I’ll be able to do.
 
A.T. said:
undermined
I suspect that the correct word is underdetermined.

There are some nasty repetitions in there to entice the fingers to skip ahead in the sequence and no spell check to save you.
 
jbriggs444 said:
I suspect that the correct word is underdetermined.
Yes, thanks. Fixed it.
 
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