Light frequency/electron interactions

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The discussion revolves around the concept of whether electrons possess frequencies similar to light, particularly in relation to their behavior in different atomic environments and the quantum jumps between energy levels in various elements and molecules.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if electrons can be associated with different frequencies depending on their atomic environment and the nature of quantum jumps between energy levels.
  • Another participant argues that electrons are characterized by energy and momentum rather than frequency, stating that frequencies are properties of classical waves and not quantum objects.
  • A different participant introduces the de Broglie wavelength concept, suggesting that frequency can be related to a particle's kinetic energy and that wavelength is inversely proportional to momentum.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the information provided.

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Participants express differing views on the applicability of frequency to electrons, with some asserting that frequency is not a relevant property while others reference the de Broglie wavelength, indicating a lack of consensus on the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to quantum mechanics and classical wave properties, highlighting the complexity of defining electron behavior in terms of frequency and the potential for misunderstanding in the context of quantum theory.

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Is there any science out there that associates electrons with having different frequencies of their own (like light has different frequencies) depending on where they are in which atom? I'm just wondering why electrons have particular quantum jump differences between the different types of elements and molecules and their orbitals. Does any science attribute the property of frequency - let alone different frequencies depending on environment - to electrons inside an atom? Or do electrons not have frequency?
 
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No, electrons have energy and momentum. Atoms have discrete energy levels (so-called atomic orbitals), but frequencies in the context you mention can only be ascribed as properties of waves, classical waves. We speak of <frequency> and <wave length> of classical electromagnetic radiation, not of any quantum objects.

Actually in the quantum theory the fundamental observables become energy, momentum, position and spin (helicity, polarization).
 
Look up de Broglie wavelength. It says that the de Broglie relations show that the wavelength is inversely proportional to the momentum of a particle and that the frequency is directly proportional to the particle's kinetic energy.
 
Ah thankyou.
 

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