Light is only a photon - no wave by feynamn?

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The discussion centers around the nature of light, specifically the characterization of light as either a particle (photon) or a wave. Participants explore Richard Feynman's perspective on light, contrasting it with contemporary understandings that incorporate both wave and particle descriptions. The conversation touches on theoretical implications and interpretations within quantum physics.

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  • Some participants note that Feynman emphasizes the particle nature of light, suggesting he does not endorse the wave-particle duality commonly accepted today.
  • Others argue that modern physics describes light through quantum mechanics, which incorporates both particle and wave characteristics.
  • A participant highlights that photons are massless particles and discusses the implications of this on observable properties, mentioning the role of field operators in quantum field theory.
  • Another participant explains that in modern quantum field theory, particles are seen as excitations of the vacuum, which differ significantly from classical particles, and that Feynman was aware of these distinctions.
  • There is mention of De Broglie's wave-particle duality hypothesis and how it relates to the behavior of particles in quantum mechanics.

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Participants express differing views on Feynman's interpretation of light, with some supporting his particle-only perspective while others advocate for the wave-particle duality model. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views presented.

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Participants reference specific interpretations and implications of quantum mechanics and quantum field theory, indicating a reliance on advanced theoretical frameworks that may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion highlights the complexity of defining light's nature and the assumptions underlying different models.

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I have been studying light and learned that light has a dual character. But then i saw one of the lectures of Feynman out of my interest - http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/45

He says light is not at all wave and he sticks to the photon concept.
But now we describe light pretty much both as a wave and particle but he didnt. So was he wrong or did i miss anything?
 
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okay - according to today's physics we have found that the rules( quantum physics ) of the behaviour of light
But if anyone has seen the video http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/45
Feynman says that light is a particle. He doesn't give it a dual character or anything like we do today. He just sticks to the particle theory
 
I should further add that the photon is a massless particle, i.e. it is always ultra-relativistic. One consequence of this is that one cannot ascribe a position as an observable for the photon. The role of a wave-function is given to a field operator that creates/annihilates a photon at a particular space-time point. Mathematically, this field operator coincidences with the 4-potential [itex]A^\mu(x)[/itex].

As for classical waves, such as radio-waves emitted from an antenna, they are best described by so called coherent states.
 
Op, what is referred to as a particle in Modern Quantum Field Theory are excitations of the vacuum corresponding to simple poles in the 2-point correlators. These have a definite energy-momentum relationship (called a dispersion relation), remain stable for a definite time, and have various characteristics (mass, spin, El. charge, color, etc.). Even classical fields, such as the electromagnetic field, have single-particle excitations. For example, the photon is the one for the EM-field. Usually, the fields are named according to the name of the elementary particle that is their excitation.


These particles are not the billiard balls from Classical Mechanics. Feynman, as the co-founder of one of the more successful Qunatum field theories, Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), was certainly aware of this. Thus, he referres to particles in the above sense.

But, the video that you are referring to describes Quantum Mechanics of a single particle. In this case , one may construct a wave equation that describes the evolution of the particle. This wave is the wave of De Broglie's wave-particle duality hypothesis. It corresponds to the semi-classical (non-quantum) limit of the equation of motion for the quantum field, in an approximation where decays and collisions of the particle with others may be neglected, or the vacuum is different (the above coherent state).
 

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