Light refracting and reflecting in a drop of water to form a rainbow

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The discussion focuses on the geometric aspects of light refraction and reflection in a water droplet, particularly in relation to forming a rainbow. Participants analyze the angles involved, noting that the BCD triangle is equilateral, leading to calculations based on the radius R of the circumference. There is a debate about the correct angles and relationships, with an emphasis on finding a minimum deviation for the primary rainbow. The conversation highlights the importance of using high school geometry and symmetry to derive the necessary angles. Ultimately, the goal is to express the angles at point B in terms of the incident angle and other relevant parameters.
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When a ray of sunlight enters a drop of water, it undergoes multiple internal reflections accompanied by partial transmissions out of the drop. Consider an ABCDE ray that undergoes a single internal reflection before emerging from the drop (Figure). The primary rainbow is formed when the deviation θ is minimal. Show that this happens for an incidence angle θ1r such that
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n1sen theta1 = n2 sen theta 2
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I drew the red and green tangent lines and I found that the angles in blue are equal to theta 1. Also , as the BCD triangle is equilateral, theta 2 = 30. With this I can calculate the side of this equilateral triangle as a function of the radius R of the circumference. After that, I can't go on. My only problem is not the physical itself, but the geometry. How can I finish?
 
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A13235378 said:
as the BCD triangle is equilateral
Oh, is it ? How do you prove that ? 🤔

The primary rainbow is formed when the deviation θ is minimal.
What do you usually have to do to find a minimum ?
 
BvU said:
Oh, is it ? How do you prove that ? 🤔

What do you usually have to do to find a minimum ?

So I may have rushed, because I thought that by law of reflection

BCO = OCD.

So BOC = COD

This is in fact but I cannot say that this third angle that completes an entire arc is also the same.

I really rushed, I ask for forgiveness
 
So it is isosceles.
(if AB is closer to the horizontal axis you can see BD is not necessarily the same length as BO )

What can you do to find an expression for ##\theta## ?
 
BvU said:
So it is isosceles.
(if AB is closer to the horizontal axis you can see BD is not necessarily the same length as BO )

What can you do to find an expression for ##\theta## ?

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I don't know if it's right, but I kind of considered the prism where S is the opening. The minimum deviation is given by the formula

D = 2i - S

Where i is the incident angle. ##\theta_1##

But also the angle I marked in orange is 4 ##\theta_2##

So I found that:

##\theta## = 2 ##\theta_1## + 4 ##\theta_2## - ##\pi##

Am I right?

If so, how can I proceed now to arrive at the result?
 
Please don't go hunting for some formula in the book. You know the incident angle ##\theta_1## and then Snell gives you ##\theta_2##. The outgoing process is similar.
That and the symmetry is sufficient to determine all the angles using high school geometry Then you need to show that the outgoing angle has a maximum.
Just write down all the angles at point B in terms of ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2## to start.
 
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