Limit Points & Closure in a Topological Space .... Singh, Theorem 1.3.7

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The discussion revolves around understanding the proof of Theorem 1.3.7 from Tej Bahadur Singh's "Elements of Topology," specifically focusing on the concepts of limit points, closure, and the properties of closed sets in a topological space. Participants seek clarification on the implications of certain definitions and results established in the text.

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Main Points Raised

  • Peter questions why the containment of an open set ##U## in the complement of ##A \cup A'## implies that ##A \cup A'## is closed, and how this leads to the conclusion that ##\overline{A} \subseteq A \cup A'##.
  • Some participants propose that showing every element of ##X \setminus Z## has an open neighborhood disjoint from ##Z## indicates that ##X \setminus Z## is open, thus making ##Z## closed.
  • It is noted that since ##A \subseteq A \cup A'##, taking closures leads to the claim that ##\overline{A} \subseteq \overline{A \cup A'} = A \cup A'##, based on the property that if ##B \subseteq C##, then ##\overline{B} \subseteq \overline{C}##.
  • Peter seeks further clarification on how the argument about the open neighborhood follows from the definitions and results established by Singh, emphasizing the need to rely solely on the definitions provided in the text.
  • Infrared explains that the argument shows that ##X \setminus Z## can be expressed as a union of open sets, confirming that ##X \setminus Z## is open and consequently that ##Z## is closed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants are engaged in clarifying specific points of the proof, and while some explanations are provided, there is no consensus on the understanding of the implications of the definitions and results. The discussion remains unresolved as participants seek further clarification.

Contextual Notes

Participants emphasize the importance of relying on the definitions and results established in Singh's text, specifically highlighting the definitions of topology, open sets, and neighborhoods, which may limit the scope of the discussion.

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I am reading Tej Bahadur Singh: Elements of Topology, CRC Press, 2013 and am focused on the notions of limit points and closure in a topological space ... and I need help with understanding Singh's proof of Theorem 1.3.7 ...
I am reading Tej Bahadur Singh: Elements of Topology, CRC Press, 2013 ... ... and am currently focused on Chapter 1, Section 1.2: Topological Spaces ...

I need help in order to fully understand Singh's proof of Theorem 1.3.7 ... (using only the definitions and results Singh has established to date ... see below ... )

Theorem 1.3.7 reads as follows:
Singh - 1 - Theorem 1.3.7 ... PART 1 ... .png

Singh - 2 - Theorem 1.3.7 ... PART 2 ... .png


In the above proof by Singh we read the following:

" ... ... So ##U## is contained in the complement of ##A \cup A'##, and hence ##A \cup A'## is closed. It follows that ##\overline{A} \subseteq A \cup A'## ... ... "My question is as follows:

Why does ##U## being contained in the complement of ##A \cup A'## imply that ##A \cup A'## is closed ... and further why then does it follow that ##\overline{A} \subseteq A \cup A'## ... ... Help will be appreciated ...

Peter==========================================================================================It is important that any proof of the above remarks only rely on the definitions and results Singh has established to date ... namely Definition 1.3.3, Proposition 1.3.4, Theorem 1.3.5 and Definition 1.3.6 ... which read as follows ... :
Singh - 1 - Defn 1.3.3, Propn 1.3.4, Theorem 1.3.5, Defn 1.3.6 ... PART 1 ... .png

Singh - 2 - Defn 1.3.3, Propn 1.3.4, Theorem 1.3.5, Defn 1.3.6 ... PART 2 ... .png

Hope that helps ...

Peter
 
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Let ##Z=A\cup A'.## Showing that every element of ##X\setminus Z## has an open neighborhood disjoint from ##Z## means that ##X\setminus Z## is open, that is, ##Z## is closed.

For your second question, we know ##A\subseteq A\cup A'##. Taking closures of both sides gives ##\overline{A}\subseteq \overline{A\cup A'}=A\cup A.'## I am using the fact that if ##B\subseteq C,## then ##\overline{B}\subseteq\overline{C}.##
 
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Infrared said:
Let ##Z=A\cup A'.## Showing that every element of ##X\setminus Z## has an open neighborhood disjoint from ##Z## means that ##X\setminus Z## is open, that is, ##Z## is closed.

For your second question, we know ##A\subseteq A\cup A'##. Taking closures of both sides gives ##\overline{A}\subseteq \overline{A\cup A'}=A\cup A.'## I am using the fact that if ##B\subseteq C,## then ##\overline{B}\subseteq\overline{C}.##
Thanks for the help Infrared ... but can you help further ...

In showing ##Z=A\cup A'## is closed you write ... "Showing that every element of ##X\setminus Z## has an open neighborhood disjoint from ##Z## means that ##X\setminus Z## is open, that is, ##Z## is closed."

Can you explain homework this follows from the definitions and results Singh has established to date (which are Definition 1.3.3, Proposition 1.3.4, Theorem 1.3.5 and Definition 1.3.6 details of which are shown in my post ... note that the only relevant definitions and results Singh has established up to this point are the definition of a topology ... and hence an open set ... and the definition of a neighbourhood ... )

Hope you can help further ...

Peter
 
The argument you quoted shows that for every ##x\in X\setminus Z##, there is an open set ##U_x\subset X\setminus Z## that contains ##x##. So we can write ##X\setminus Z=\bigcup_{x\in X\setminus Z} U_x.## This is a union of open sets, so ##X\setminus Z## is open. This means ##Z## is closed.
 
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Thanks Infrared ...

Really appreciate your help...

Peter
 

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