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The discussion focuses on solving the limit problem Lim x>1 (y^(1/3)-1)/((y^(1/5)-1) by factoring the expressions involved. Participants suggest substituting y with x^15 to simplify the limit and recommend using the difference of powers identity to facilitate the factoring process. The importance of recognizing y-1 as a difference of cubes is emphasized, allowing for further simplification. Clarifications are requested for understanding the steps in the solution, particularly regarding the factorization techniques. Overall, the conversation aims to enhance comprehension of the limit problem through collaborative explanation and problem-solving strategies.
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Homework Statement



Lim x>1 (y^1/3-1)/((y^1/5-1)

Homework Equations



Difference of powers a^n-b^n=(a-b)*(a^n-1*b^0+a^n-2*b^1...+b^n-1)

The Attempt at a Solution



Scanned and attached the solution...

Can anyone Pls explain the steps in the solution, especially, how you factor out such an ugly function.
 

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y-1\equiv (y^{1/3})^3-1\equiv (y^{1/n})^n-1, n being a natural number.

Does this clear things up?
 
joshiemen said:

Homework Statement



Lim x>1 (y^1/3-1)/((y^1/5-1)


Homework Equations



Difference of powers a^n-b^n=(a-b)*(a^n-1*b^0+a^n-2*b^1...+b^n-1)


The Attempt at a Solution



Scanned and attached the solution...

Can anyone Pls explain the steps in the solution, especially, how you factor out such an ugly function.

you can actually substitute y=x^15 , as y>1 , x>1
hence obtaining x>1 (x^5-1)/(x^3-1)
try to divide x-1 from top and bottom

There is this identity:
x^n -1 =(x-1)[x^(n-1) + x^(n-2) + ... + 1 ]

Continue from here =D
 
icystrike said:
you can actually substitute y=x^15 , as y>1 , x>1
hence obtaining x>1 (x^5-1)/(x^3-1)
try to divide x-1 from top and bottom

There is this identity:
x^n -1 =(x-1)[x^(n-1) + x^(n-2) + ... + 1 ]

Continue from here =D

:) THANK YOU!

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Mentallic said:
y-1\equiv (y^{1/3})^3-1\equiv (y^{1/n})^n-1, n being a natural number.

Does this clear things up?

Could you elaborate on this further pls? not so clear, i have been staring at it and thinking, have not penetrated the wall of ignorance yet.
 
joshiemen said:
Could you elaborate on this further pls? not so clear, i have been staring at it and thinking, have not penetrated the wall of ignorance yet.

It's essentially the same as icystrike's suggestion.

For y-1=(y^{1/3})^3-1 if you substitute x=y^{1/3} or equivalently, x^3=y then we have x^3-1=(x)^3-1

So if you have y-1 to factorize this using a difference of two cubes, you substitute x^3=y or if you can see what is happening without substitution, you let y-1=(y^{1/3})^3-1^3=(y^{1/3}-1)(y^{2/3}+y^{1/3}+1)
 
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