Line integral ad electric charge

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The problem involves calculating the work done by an electrostatic force exerted by a charge at the origin on a charged particle moving along a specified path in three-dimensional space. The force is defined by a vector function dependent on the position vector of the particle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss parametrizing the path of the particle and express the force function in terms of these parameters. There is also mention of the conservative nature of the electrostatic force and the potential energy difference approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to the problem, with some participants suggesting the use of potential energy to avoid direct integration. Others provide insights on expressing the force in Cartesian coordinates and integrating along the path. There is acknowledgment of different methods without reaching a consensus on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to compute the work done along a specific path and the implications of the conservative nature of the force.

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Homework Statement


The force exerted by an electric charge at the origin on a charged particle at point (x,y,z) with position vector r = <x,y,z> is F(r) = Kr / |r|^3
where K is a constant. Find the work done as the particle moves along a straight line from (2,0,0) to (2,1,5).

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The Attempt at a Solution


So if it moves from (2,0,0) to (2,1,5) I can parametrize:
x = 2
Y = T
Z = 5T
for 0<t<1

so r(t) = (2, T, 5T)
r'(t) = (0, 1, 5)
But how do I put the force function F(r) = Kr / |r|^3 in terms of these parameters so I can do the integral?
 
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The electrostatic force is a conservative force. This means that the work done by the electrostatic force while moving a charge from one point to another is independent of the path and only depends on the end points. The magnitude of the work done by the electrostatic force will be the difference in the potential energy of the system in the two configurations. Using this you can find the answer to your question without computing the line integral along the path requested, but by choosing another simpler path.

However, if that is not allowed, then you probably should re-express the force law you were given in terms of Cartesian coordinates.
 
work= force* distance moved and if the force is variable along the path, it is \int f dx[/itex]. Finally if force is a vector, then it is [itex]\vec{F}\dot\vec{ds}[/itex] where the integral is take along the path the object moves on.

Here the force is given as [tex]\frac{K\vec{r}}{|\vec{r}|^3}[/itex] which, in Cartesian coordinates, is [tex]\frac{K}{(x^2+ y^2+ z^2)^{3/2}}(x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k}[/tex]. As you say, parametric equations for the path are x= 2, y= t, z= 5t so you can replace x, y, z in the force vector by those. As a vector, the path is given by [tex]\vec{r}= 2\vec{i}+ t\vec{j}+ 5t\vec{j}[/tex] so [itex]d\vec{r}= (\vec{j}+ 5\vec{k})dt[/itex][/tex][itex]. Integrate the dot product of those two from t= 0 to t= 1.<br /> <br /> However, AEM is correct. That is a conserative force so you could also find a "potential", an antiderivative, F(x,y,z) such that [tex]\nabla F[/tex] is the force vector, and evaluate that at the two end points. You would have to find F such that <br /> [tex]\frac{\partial F}{\partial x}= \frac{Kx}{(x^2+ y^2+ z^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]<br /> [tex]\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= \frac{Ky}{(x^2+ y^2+ z^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]<br /> [tex]\frac{\partial F}{\partial z}= \frac{Kz}{(x^2+ y^2+ z^2)^{3/2}}[/tex][/itex]
 
I'm very happy to read your post, because that's actually how i ended up doing it, though I certainly wasn't sure if it was right. Thanks very much, I really appreciate all your help!
 

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