Line of action from pivot to force should be zero?

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The discussion centers on the concept of torque in relation to pivot points in physics. Participants clarify that a force's line of action passing through the pivot does not produce zero torque when considering the pin as the pivot position. Instead, torque is generated based on the perpendicular distance from the line of action to the pivot point. The confusion arises when attempting to calculate torque using the center of mass as the pivot, which is an incorrect approach in this context.

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I am seeing the steps on others who have worked this out and they are taking the pin as the pivot position. I thought a force's line of action that passes the pivot position produces zero torque? So i tried to make the center of mass the pivot position and each calculate each torque with respect to the center of mass, which is the wrong approach. So why can we say that the pin produces a torque when the force of the pin's line of action crosses the pivot position? Shouldn't that produce a torque of zero?


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