Linear algebar distance between two lines,help for part(b)

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The discussion revolves around finding the distance between two skew lines in three-dimensional space, specifically focusing on the mathematical approach to determine points on each line that maintain this distance. The subject area is linear algebra, particularly involving vector operations such as the cross product and projection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve part (a) by calculating the distance between the lines using vector representations and the cross product. They express uncertainty about their approach to part (b), particularly in selecting points on the lines that maintain the calculated distance.
  • Another participant introduces an alternative method involving the relationship between points on the lines and the direction vectors, questioning the correctness of the original poster's assumptions regarding the closest points.
  • Some participants question the validity of the original poster's solution to part (a) and the assumption that the point C is the closest point to line K.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to find the required points on the lines. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem due to the lines being skew and lying in different planes. Some guidance has been offered regarding the geometric interpretation of the lines and their respective planes.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the lines K and L do not lie in the same plane, which affects the approach to finding the distance and the corresponding points. There is also mention of the need to consider the planes formed by the lines in the calculations.

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Linear algebar!distance between two lines,help for part(b)

Homework Statement



(a)use cross product to find the distance d from the line K determined by the two points(4,4,4) and (-1,-2,-5) to the line L determined by the parametric equations x=3,y=-1,z=5-5t

(b)find two points P and Q on the lines K and L respectively in part(a) such that the idstance from P to Q is d.

Homework Equations



projection formula, corss product

The Attempt at a Solution



i slove part(a)

i set A as (4,4,4) and B as (1,-2,-5), then we can get -->AB=(-3,-6,-9)

from x=3,y=-1,z=5-5t , we get C as (3,-1,-5),then -->AC=(-1,-5,1)

and we know l(distance between L and K)=area of parallelogram/length of AB

which is

l= ||-->AB*-->AC|| / ||-->AB||

now i use cross product -->AB*-->AC=(-3,-6,-9)*(-1,-5,1)=(-39,-12,21)

......

......

FINALLY i get l= sqrt(117/7)

i think i did right way for part(a)

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but for part(b)

i find the projection of -->AC first

proj(AC)={AC*AB/AB*AB}AB

=(3+30-9)/126 (-3,-6,-9)

=4/21(-3,-6,-9)

ok, till here,

can i use (4,4,4)as point P

then use C(3,-1,-5) minus (4/21)(-3,-6,-9) to get point Q?

if i did wrong way ,please give me a hand

thanks!
 
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i get some ideas from another topic

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=274638"

i use the equation wut Dick offered X_p(s)-X_q(t)=u*W

then i get

(4,4,4)+t[-3,-6,-9] - (3,-1,5)+s[0,0,-5] = u[30,-15,0]<--cross product by deriction vectors

i solve it and get t=11/15 s=38/25 u=-1/25

wuts next?

PLZ HELP
 
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any1 help me ! please!
 


Your original posted solution to (a) gives the dist from C to K, but how do you know C is the closest pt to K? Your original (a) is wrong because K and L don't lie in the same plane.

Look at your second post.

The skew lines K and L lie on two parallel planes P1 and P2. The distance between K and L is the distance between the two planes P1 and P2.

Your vector [30,-15,0] is perpendicular to both planes P1 and P2.

(4,4,4)+t[-3,-6,-9] when t=11/15 is pt M on line K

(3,-1,5)+s[0,0,-5] when s=38/25 is pt N on line L

Vector MN is parallel to [30,-15,0].

You are ready to write down the answer to both parts now, do you see it?
 

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