Linear Algebra - Solution Sets of Linear Systems

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The discussion revolves around understanding the solution sets of two linear equations involving three variables: X_1 + 5 X_2 - 3 X_3 = 0 and X_1 + 5 X_2 - 3 X_3 = -2. Participants are exploring the implications of these equations in the context of linear algebra and the geometric interpretation of their solution sets.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to assume that the variables X_1, X_2, and X_3 represent the same quantities in both equations. There is exploration of the geometric interpretation of the equations as planes in three-dimensional space and the implications of their parallel nature. Questions arise regarding the derivation of vectors associated with the planes and the uniqueness of these vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants clarifying concepts and questioning the assumptions underlying the problem. Some have expressed understanding of the geometric aspects, while others seek further guidance on deriving specific vectors related to the planes defined by the equations. There is acknowledgment of the non-uniqueness of certain vectors involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential confusion stemming from the labeling of variables and the requirement for additional equations to fully define the system. The discussion also touches on the nature of the solution sets and the conditions under which the equations are considered consistent or inconsistent.

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See Attachment 2 for question or read below
Describe and compare the solution sets of X_1 + 5 X_2 - 3 X_3 = 0 and X_1 + 5 X_2 - 3 X_3 = -2.

See Attachment 1 for answer from back of book

I do not understand how the answer in the back of the book answers the question or were to even begin to get that answer. I do not see how I am suppose to come up with the solution to an equation with three variables and one equation. Am I suppose to assume that the X_1 X_2 X_3 are the same in both equations?
[1 5 -3 0
1 5 -3 -2]
~
[1 5 -3 0
0 0 0 -2]
system is inconsistent

Not exactly sure what I'm suppose to do to answer this question or what exactly I'm being asked. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
 

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Yes, you have to assume X1, X2 and X3 represent the same variables in the two equations. It might have been better if they had labeled them (x,y,z) instead of (X1,X2,X3). x+5y-3z=0 is a plane through the origin in (x,y,z) coordinates. x+5y-3z=(-2) is a plane that doesn't pass through the origin but is parallel to the first plane. It's displaced by a constant vector from the first plane, so they don't intersect, as you found. Take another look at the answer now and see if it makes more sense.
 
Ok well the concept is making perfect sense to me know but I'm unsure on how to get the vectors u,v,p as they did. The vector p is <-2,0,0>, is it just by coincidence that the vector that the plates are displaced by is the last entry in the second row of as I could reduce the original matrix?

I'm understand the concept now a bit. The planes are defined by the base vectors u and v. I have to find u and v and the vector connects the two separate parallel planes which are defined by the equations. I'm still unsure how to proceed
 
Don't I need more equations to define this form

Ax = 0
A = [1 5 -3]
x = [x y z]

Ax = b
A(p + tv) = b
A = [1 5 -3]
b = -2

hmm idk
 
oh i got that was a mean problem lol
 
GreenPrint said:
oh i got that was a mean problem lol

The vectors u, v and p that they give are not unique. u and v could be ANY basis for the plane that goes through the origin. And p could be ANY vector that is a difference between points in the two planes. That's maybe what's confusing about the problem.
 

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