# Linear Combinatio

1. Nov 29, 2007

### Hurricane3

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
We know that B = { (1, -1, 2, 5) , (2,-3,-1,6) } is a basis of H.

Express v as a linear combination of b(one) and b(two)

Where
v = (0,2,-6,8)
b(one) = (1,-1,2,5)
b(two) = (2,-3,-1,6)

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution

is it just

v = tb(one) + pb(two)

where t , p are parameters
?
Do i need to solve for t and p?

Last edited: Nov 29, 2007
2. Nov 29, 2007

### Hurricane3

The second part of the question is:
Fine the co-ordinate vector [v] of v relative to the basis B

and I don't have a clue how to do this. Do i need to kno what's the linear transformation?

3. Nov 29, 2007

### HallsofIvy

Staff Emeritus
For the first part of the equation, you do the algebra!
You want t(1, -1, 2, 5)+ p(2, -3, -1, 6)= (0,2,-6,8) . That is,
(2p- t, -t-3p, 2t- p, 5t+ 6p)= (0, 2, -6, 8). Solve for t and p.

That is, of course, 4 equations for 2 values, p and t. The given basis vectors span a 2 dimensional subspace of R4. IF the given (0, 2, -6, 8) is in that subspace then this problem will have an answer.

The "coordinate vector of v relative to the basis B" is just the vector with those two numbers (p, t).

4. Nov 29, 2007

### Hurricane3

Yea i've tried solving for the variables p and t, and it doesnt work out. When I try solving it by augmented coefficient matrix and reducing it to row echelon form, I get a row of zeros and then a number ( [ 0 0 | # ] )
Then i tried solving it using the TI-83+, and I get an "Invalid Dim" error

5. Nov 30, 2007

### HallsofIvy

Staff Emeritus
Yes, if you have copied the numbers correctly, then the problem is that v is not in the subspace, H, spanned by the two given basis vectors! The four equations you get trying to "fit" it in are t+ 2p= 0, -t- 3p= 2, 2t-p= -6, 5t+ 6p= 8.
From the first, t= -2p. Then the second becomes 2p- 3p= -p= 2 so p= -2 and then t= 4. Putting that into the third equation, 2t-p= 8+ 2= 10, not -6. Are you sure you haven't lost a sign somewhere? If that third equation were 2t+ p= 6 or -2t- p= -6, then it would work.