Linear momentum and impulse problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the momentum and impulse of a ball that falls and rebounds. The ball's mass is 0.3 kg, and it falls from a height of 30 m, rebounding with half its velocity. The initial momentum is calculated using the potential energy converted to kinetic energy, but the final momentum must be considered negative due to the change in direction after the bounce. The conservation of momentum principle applies, emphasizing that momentum is a vector quantity. The participant acknowledges a mistake in sign convention, which affected their final answer.
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Homework Statement


A 0.3-kg ball falls from a height of 30 m from rest and rebounds with half its velocity upon impact with a sidewalk. Find (a) the momentum delivered to the Earth and (b) the impulse delivered to the earth.

Homework Equations


FΔt= mvf-mvi

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What I tried to do was I found the velocity using the potential energy formula to find the energy and then the kinetic energy formula to find the velocity right before the ball hit the ground. I then multiplied the velocity by the mass to find the initial momentum. After that I divided the velocity by two because it said that when it rebounded it had half the velocity. Then I multiplied half the initial velocity by the mass to get the final momentum. Then I used the equation FΔt= mvf-mvi to find the impulse. I got -3.7125 and the answer was 11 for both (a) and (b)
 
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BrainMan said:
What I tried to do was I found the velocity using the potential energy formula to find the energy and then the kinetic energy formula to find the velocity right before the ball hit the ground. I then multiplied the velocity by the mass to find the initial momentum. After that I divided the velocity by two because it said that when it rebounded it had half the velocity. Then I multiplied half the initial velocity by the mass to get the final momentum. Then I used the equation FΔt= mvf-mvi to find the impulse. I got -3.7125 and the answer was 11 for both (a) and (b)
Not too bad, but you missed out a bit.
1. Momentum is a vector (and it has units)
2. The collision involves the Earth - so you need to consider it in the calculation.
Law of conservation of momentum applies here.Note: It is easier to just use momentum directly, so you avoid awkward numbers.
i.e. if velocity halves and mass stays the same then momentum halves.
if it ends up going in the opposite direction, and the initial momentum was positive, then the final momentum is negative.
$$K=\frac{mv^2}{2}=\frac{p^2}{2m}$$... since ##v=p/m##
You want the gravitational PE lost falling turning into kinetic energy at the moment of contact so:$$\frac{p^2}{2m}=mgh \implies p=m\sqrt{2gh}$$... see?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Not too bad, but you missed out a bit.
1. Momentum is a vector (and it has units)
2. The collision involves the Earth - so you need to consider it in the calculation.
Law of conservation of momentum applies here.


Note: It is easier to just use momentum directly, so you avoid awkward numbers.
i.e. if velocity halves and mass stays the same then momentum halves.
if it ends up going in the opposite direction, and the initial momentum was positive, then the final momentum is negative.
$$K=\frac{mv^2}{2}=\frac{p^2}{2m}$$... since ##v=p/m##
You want the gravitational PE lost falling turning into kinetic energy at the moment of contact so:$$\frac{p^2}{2m}=mgh \implies p=m\sqrt{2gh}$$... see?

OK I see what I did wrong. I didn't make the velocity after the ball had bounced negative. I got the right numbers with my method but the negative threw off my answer. Thanks!
 
Well done :)
 
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