Linking Pressure, Force and Velocity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around linking pressure, force, and velocity in the context of a project involving the firing of paintballs from a pressurized tube. Participants explore the relationships between these physical quantities and seek equations to quantify them, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their project setup, including the use of a pressure pump, light gate, and force sensor, and seeks equations to connect pressure to force and then force to velocity.
  • Another participant inquires about the completion of the project and requests findings, indicating interest in the results.
  • A different participant proposes a method to calculate velocity pressure using the equation 1/2PV^2, suggesting the conversion of psi to Pascals and the need to measure air velocity through the tube.
  • Another response reiterates the project details and suggests that the force on the paintball can be calculated using the pressure times the cross-sectional area, while also discussing the assumptions needed for calculating exit velocity and imparted force at impact.
  • This participant emphasizes the importance of considering energy imparted to the target rather than just force, suggesting a conservation of energy approach for calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various methods and equations, but there is no consensus on a single approach or solution. Multiple competing views and methods for linking pressure, force, and velocity remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention simplifying assumptions such as neglecting friction, air leakage, and air resistance, which may affect the accuracy of their calculations. The discussion also highlights the need for specific measurements, such as the length of the tube and the mass of the paintball, which are not fully resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in experimental physics, engineering projects involving projectile motion, or those working on similar applications in fluid dynamics may find this discussion relevant.

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For a project, i have designed a brief which involves firing paintballs at a target. the paintballs are shot out of a tube which has linked to it a container in which the air pressure (psi) can be altered. it is this pressure that provides the force to propell the paintball towards the target. i have a light gate that will measure the velocity of the paintball as it leaves the tubing, a pressure pump with the ability to alter the psi of the air within the container and a force sensor linked to the target which will register the force of impact.

i want to link the initial pressure within the container (psi) to the force this exerts on the paintball on release of the pressure using an equation. then the force to the velocity of the paintball using an equation.

if anybody can provide equations, help or support it will be much appreciated.
thanks
 
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hi,

This is the way i see it, it may be wrong, but i'll have a go.

Firstly you need to know what velocity pressure is, this is 1/2PV^2, p= density of air 1.2 kg m3. this will give you the velocity pressure in Pascals, convert your Psi into Pascals which is 1 psi = 6.89476 Kpa, your then need to try to find the velocity of your air through tube.

Then i would shoot the paint ball and measure the displacement, then i would use the equation of motion V^2 = U^2 + 2as and work it back to find acceleration, or use S= Ut + 1/2at^2

Force = MxA
 
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rickya_23 said:
For a project, i have designed a brief which involves firing paintballs at a target. the paintballs are shot out of a tube which has linked to it a container in which the air pressure (psi) can be altered. it is this pressure that provides the force to propell the paintball towards the target. i have a light gate that will measure the velocity of the paintball as it leaves the tubing, a pressure pump with the ability to alter the psi of the air within the container and a force sensor linked to the target which will register the force of impact.

i want to link the initial pressure within the container (psi) to the force this exerts on the paintball on release of the pressure using an equation. then the force to the velocity of the paintball using an equation.

if anybody can provide equations, help or support it will be much appreciated.
thanks

The pressure (in psi above air pressure) times the cross-sectional area of the paintball (pi*r^2 and r is measured in inches) gives the force on the ball. In order to calculate the exit velocity of the ball it helps to make some simplifying assumptions (no friction, no air leakage, etc), you need to know how long the tube is, and the mass of the ball. Assuming constant acceleration and a starting velocity of zero gives the final velocity by using one of the kinematic equations from mechanics.

Then, to calculate the imparted force at impact, it again helps to make some simplifications- no air resistance, no spin, etc. But physically, it makes more sense to talk about the energy imparted to the target rather than the force. and again, making some simplifications and using the conservation of energy gives the result.

Does that help?
 

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