Little group and photon polarizations

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The discussion centers on the little group associated with massless particles, particularly photons, and their polarizations. Participants explore the implications of gauge transformations, the nature of the little group, and the relationship between these concepts and the properties of photons, including their polarization states.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that all particles moving at the speed of light do not necessarily have gauge transformations, citing examples like massless spin 1/2 particles described by the Dirac equation.
  • There is contention regarding whether gauge transformations can be equated with Lorentz transformations, with some arguing that this is a misinterpretation of the terminology used in textbooks.
  • One participant questions why the photon has only two polarizations, suggesting that the absence of a third polarization state (m_z=0) implies that the photon cannot be spinning along axes other than the z-axis.
  • Another participant notes that combinations of eigenstates with m_z = 1 and -1 are not eigenstates of J_x or J_y, indicating limitations in the representation of spin states.
  • Discussion includes the group-theoretical foundation of gauge structures for massless spin-1 particles, emphasizing that massless particles with spin have only two helicity degrees of freedom.
  • One participant references the representation theory of the Lorentz group as a basis for introducing gauge degrees of freedom in massless spin-1 particle representations.
  • A request for reputable sources on the relationship between the Poincaré sphere and the photon’s little group is made, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of gauge transformations and their relationship to Lorentz transformations. There is no consensus on the implications of the little group for photon polarizations, with multiple competing interpretations presented.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of gauge transformations and their mathematical representations, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion also touches on unresolved aspects of the representation theory related to massless particles.

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From what I understand, the little group for a particle moving at the speed of light, has 3 generators. 2 generators generate gauge transformation, and 1 generator rotates the particle about its axis of motion.

I have 3 questions:

1) Do all particles moving at the speed of light (not just photons) have gauge transformations?

2) Since gauge transformations are Lorentz transformations, if someone asks you what a gauge transformation is, can you say it's what the photon looks like in a different Lorentz frame?

3) How exactly does it follow that the photon has only two polarizations from the fact that the only generator in the little group not involved in gauge transformations is rotation about a single axis, instead of 3 possible axis? Call this axis the z-axis. Why can't there be a mz=0 polarization? I would like to argue that mz=0 means the photon is spinning along some other axis, either the x or y axis, and that type of rotation is not part of the little group, hence mz=0 is not allowed . However, since you can have a linear combination of mz=\pm 1, can't you choose your coefficients in your linear combination such that it's spinning about an axis that's not the z-axis, i.e., \alpha |+1\rangle+\beta | -1\rangle is an eigenvector of spin along an axis not equal to the z-axis?
 
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ad 1) No. Consider a massless spin 1/2 particle described by the dirac equation.

ad 3) combinations of eigenstates with m_z =1 and -1 aren't eigenstates of J_x or J_y.
 
The little group of massless particles is ISO(2,R), i.e., the symmetry space of the Euclidean 2-dimensional plane. It is generated by rotations around an arbitrary point and by the translations in arbitrary directions in the plane. That's indeed a three-dimensional Lie group.

Now, as you know from quantum theory, the translations have as irreducible representations only the trivial representation and the one representing momentum, i.e., with continuous spectrum. The latter realization implies that you'd have some continuous spin-like degrees of freedom, something that yet has never been observed. Thus, for massless particles with spin you have to make sure that the translations of the little group are trivially represented. This implies for spin 1 and higher spins that you have a gauge theory. A massless particle with spin s has only two helicity degrees of freedom, \lambda = \pm s. In the case s=1/2 there are thus no redundant degrees of freedom, and thus it's not implying a local gauge group. In all other cases that indeed happens. This is the group-theoretical foundation of the gauge structure of massless spin-1 particles, as we know them in the Standard Model as photons and gluons.

For more details about the group-representation theory of the Poincare group, relevant for relativistic QFT, see my manuscript:

http://fias.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/publ/lect.pdf
 
2) Gauge transformations are not Lorentz transformations; you made wrong implications from (unspecified) wording in a textbook. A subgroup of the little group branded as “gauge transformations” means that actions of its elements on the specified photon state are equivalent to gauge transformations, i.e. that subgroup effectively preserves the state. An analogy: after one sidereal day, Earth’s orientation in the space doesn’t change. We can say that evolution of Earth for a sidereal day is a spatial translation. But it is a thing utterly different from saying such nonsense as “spatial translations are evolutions of Earth for multiples of sidereal day”.

3) Look at http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...ave-only-two-possible-eigenvalues-of-helicity
 
Incnis Mrsi said:
2) Gauge transformations are not Lorentz transformations;

I think the point which is really of interest here is the fact that already the representation theory of the Lorentz group urges us to introduce gauge degrees of freedom in the representation of massless spin 1 particles.
 
By the way, can anybody recommend a reputable source that considers relationship between Poincaré sphere and photon’s little group? It happened that Ī began to learn it only recently.
 

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