Logarithm question, finding all possible pairs of integers

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation log(1/n)(√(a+√(15)) - √(a -√(15))) = -1/2 for integer pairs (a, n). Participants derive the equation n^4 = 2√(15) - 2√((a+√15)(a -√15)), leading to further simplifications. A key result is the quadratic equation n^2 - 4an + 60 = 0, from which a can be expressed as a = (n/4) + (15/n). Suggestions include using a BASIC FOR loop to explore potential integer solutions for n and a, as no straightforward method for finding integer pairs is identified. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of the problem and the need for computational assistance.
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Homework Statement


Find all possible pairs of integers a and n such that:

log(1/n)(√(a+√(15)) - √(a -√(15)))=-1/2

(that's log to the base (1/n))


The Attempt at a Solution



(1/n)^-1/2 = (√(a+√(15)) - √(a -√(15))
∴ n^4 = (a+√(15) - (a -√(15) - 2√((a+√15)(a -√(15))
∴ n^4 = =2√(15) - 2√((a+√15)(a -√(15))
eventually simplifying to:
n^(16)-√(15)n^4 =4a^2

dont know how to solve, probably made mistake

question is from core 3 edexcel and is worth 13 marks
 
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Typing in all the steps into the Compose form would be a mess; but one of my partial results seems to give the equation,
(n-2a)/(-2) = sqrt(a2-15)
 
symbolipoint said:
Typing in all the steps into the Compose form would be a mess; but one of my partial results seems to give the equation,
(n-2a)/(-2) = sqrt(a2-15)

Yeah, I get the same thing.
 
Further steps give me n2-4an+60=0, from which solving for a,
a=(n/4)+(15/n).

That could let us find possible pairs of INTEGERS for a and n.
 
symbolipoint said:
Further steps give me n2-4an+60=0, from which solving for a,
a=(n/4)+(15/n).

That could let us find possible pairs of INTEGERS for a and n.

OK, but maybe we should let the OP solve it? :-p
 
micromass said:
OK, but maybe we should let the OP solve it? :-p

Knowing no clever way to solve specifically for integer solutions, would a BASIC FOR loop be acceptable? I would run n from about 0.100 to 50, incrementing by 0.100 for each step. a would be calculated in each run through the loop.

( I know no clever, fancy way to find the integer solutions for this rational equation but I believe a BASIC program can expose some integer number pairs for n and a ).
 
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