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The discussion revolves around proving that if the product of two square matrices A and B is invertible, then both A and B must also be invertible. Participants explore various methods of proof, including direct matrix manipulation and properties of invertibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the existence of a matrix C such that I = (AB)C = A(BC) to show that A is invertible, proposing that A-1 = BC.
  • Another participant expresses concern that the approach seems too simple but acknowledges it as a valid proof method.
  • Several participants discuss the equivalence of a matrix being non-invertible to the existence of a nonzero vector v such that Xv=0, using this to argue that if either A or B is not invertible, then AB cannot be invertible.
  • One participant reiterates the argument about non-invertibility and provides a similar reasoning structure to support the claim.

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Participants present multiple approaches to the proof, with some expressing confidence in their methods while others question the simplicity of certain arguments. The discussion does not reach a consensus on a single preferred method of proof.

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Some participants rely on specific properties of matrices and their invertibility, but the discussion does not clarify all assumptions or dependencies on definitions related to matrix operations.

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A,B are nxn. If AB is invertible. Show that A and B are invertible.

I know how to prove it by determinant, using linear transformations and contradictions.
I am looking for a direct way using a proof by matrices. Can anyone think of one?

Thank you.
 
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AB is invertible so there exist a matrix C such that

I = (AB)C = A(BC)

so A is invertible and A-1 = BC.

Try B yourself.
 
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There is another way if you know that a matrix X is not invertible is equivalent to saying that there is a nonzero vector v such that Xv=0.

Then suppose B is not invertible with Bv=0. Then AB is not invertible since ABv=0. Now, suppose B is invertible but A is not invertible with Av=0. Then ABB^-1 v = 0.

It follows that if A or B are not invertible then AB is not invertible.
 
arkajad said:
There is another way if you know that a matrix X is not invertible is equivalent to saying that there is a nonzero vector v such that Xv=0.

Then suppose B is not invertible with Bv=0. Then AB is not invertible since ABv=0. Now, suppose B is invertible but A is not invertible with Av=0. Then ABB^-1 v = 0.

It follows that if A or B are not invertible then AB is not invertible.

Good one.
 

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