Lorentz Transformation and position of the object

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The problem involves the Lorentz transformation in the context of special relativity, specifically determining the position of an object in one reference frame (S) given its position in another frame (S') and the time in frame S. The object is stationary in frame S' and the frames are moving relative to each other at a significant fraction of the speed of light.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Lorentz transformation equations, with one participant expressing confusion over the correct use of the time transformation in conjunction with the position transformation. There is an exploration of whether the Galilean transformation can be directly applied to the Lorentz transformation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the necessary equations and the relationship between time and position transformations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in using the Lorentz transformation correctly, and some participants are questioning their understanding of the equations needed.

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There is a mention of a specific time reading in frame S (1.3 μs) and the need to consider both time and position transformations, indicating that the problem may involve multiple steps and variables that are not immediately clear to all participants.

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Homework Statement


Reference frame S' moves at speed v=0.94c in the +x direction with respect to reference frame S. The origins of S and S' overlap at t=t′=0. An object is stationary in S' at position x′ = 140 m .

Part B
What is the position of the object in S when the clock in S reads 1.3 μs according to the Lorentz transformation equations?

Homework Equations


x=γ(x'+vt')

The Attempt at a Solution


I got part A, the Galilean transformation, easily enough. That came out to be 506.6 m. I've been getting the Lorentz transformation wrong and am thinking I'm missing something simple.

I used γ=1/√(1-v^2/c^2) and obtained γ=2.93. I then multiplied this by the Galilean transformation and got ~1485, but Mastering Physics is saying no.
 
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HI Blue Kangaroo and welcome to PF
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You are missing a relevant equation involving the time transformation.

You just can't multiply γ "by the Galilean transformation" (whatever that means) and expect to get a sensible answer.
 
My line of thinking was since part A asked for the Galilean transformation (given by x=x'+vt') that that would go directly into the x=γ(x'+vt') equation.

So do I then need to use t=γ(t'+vx'/c^2) and then plug that t into x=γ(x'+vt') to get my final answer?
 
Blue Kangaroo said:
So do I then need to use t=γ(t'+vx'/c^2) and then plug that t into x=γ(x'+vt') to get my final answer?
Yes, you will get a system of two equations and two unknowns, the position in S that the problem asks you to find and time t' that the problem doesn't ask you to find.
 

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