Lossless transmission line characteristic phase constant

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the characteristic impedance and phase constant of a lossless transmission line, given its inductance and capacitance values. Participants are exploring the relevant equations and seeking clarification on how to apply them, particularly in the context of homework problems.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Participants present the inductance and capacitance values of the transmission line and inquire about the characteristic impedance and phase constant calculations.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to derive the phase constant from the given equations and seeks guidance on incorporating sine and cosine functions.
  • Another participant mentions a simple formula relating the phase constant to the radian frequency, inductance per unit length, and capacitance per unit length, but does not provide the formula itself.
  • There is a request for the specific formula for the phase constant, with one participant indicating they have seen it in a book but cannot locate it.
  • One participant confirms that the result from the characteristic impedance calculation (50 ohms) should not be used in the phase constant formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a formula to calculate the phase constant, but there is no consensus on what that formula is or how to derive it from the given information.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the specific formula for the phase constant, and there is uncertainty regarding the relationship between the characteristic impedance and the phase constant calculations.

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Homework Statement



A lossless transmission line has an inductance of 9.0 nH / m and a capacitance of 3.6 pF / m.
a) What is the line's characteristic impedance?
b) Calculate the phase constant of a frequency of 1 GHz.

Homework Equations



Equation of characteristic impedance of a transmission line:

Z0 = sqrt( R+j2piL / G+2jpiC )

Where R and G = 0, because lossless transmission line.

The Attempt at a Solution



For a I just used the equation above, but for task 2 I'm not sure what to do. I don't now how to get Sin/Cos to the equation so I can fint the phase constant. Do I need to do something to the equation above?
 
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bergen89 said:

Homework Statement



A lossless transmission line has an inductance of 9.0 nH / m and a capacitance of 3.6 pF / m.
a) What is the line's characteristic impedance?
b) Calculate the phase constant of a frequency of 1 GHz.

Homework Equations



Equation of characteristic impedance of a transmission line:

Z0 = sqrt( R+j2piL / G+2jpiC )

Where R and G = 0, because lossless transmission line.

The Attempt at a Solution



For a I just used the equation above, but for task 2 I'm not sure what to do. I don't now how to get Sin/Cos to the equation so I can fint the phase constant. Do I need to do something to the equation above?
For a lossless or for that matter distortionless line there is a very simple formula relating the phase constant to the radian frequency, inductance per unit length and capacitance per unit length, all of which you have. SI units are rad/m.
 
rude man said:
For a lossless or for that matter distortionless line there is a very simple formula relating the phase constant to the radian frequency, inductance per unit length and capacitance per unit length, all of which you have. SI units are rad/m.
Thanks a lot for you respons. I really appreciate it. Do you know what the formula is, or where I could find it? I have seen in the book, but can't find it. Also I have added what I done in the first task. Should I use the result from that? I got 50 ohm.
 

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bergen89 said:
Thanks a lot for you respons. I really appreciate it. Do you know what the formula is, or where I could find it? I have seen in the book, but can't find it. Also I have added what I done in the first task. Should I use the result from that? I got 50 ohm.
There are many places on the Internet where you can find that formula. No, that formula does not include the answer to part (a).
 

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