Magnetic dipole in magnetic field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the classical and quantum mechanical descriptions of the energy of a magnetic dipole in an external magnetic field. Participants explore the implications of the energy equations and the nature of energy transitions in both frameworks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the energy U of a magnetic dipole in a magnetic field is given by U = -μ · B, noting that energy is zero when perpendicular and maximal when antiparallel.
  • The same participant connects this classical description to quantum mechanics through the equation U = μ_Bg_Fm_FB, relating it to the Zeeman shift.
  • Another participant suggests that energy gain due to torque is conditional on the ability of the dipole to rotate, indicating that quantum transitions do not involve rotation but rather a change in μ.
  • A follow-up question seeks clarification on whether the change in μ refers to a change in m_F in the quantum equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between classical torque and quantum energy shifts, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

There is an implicit assumption regarding the conditions under which the magnetic dipole can rotate, and the discussion does not resolve how these conditions affect the energy transitions in quantum mechanics.

Niles
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Hi

The energy U of a magnetic dipole in an external magnetic field is given by
[tex] U = -\mu \cdot B[/tex]
so the energy is zero when they are perpendicular and maximal when they are antiparallel. This makes very good sense intuitively. Quantum-mechanically we have that
[tex] \mu = -m_Fg_F \mu_B[/tex]
so U becomes
[tex] U = \mu_Bg_Fm_FB,[/tex]
which is just the Zeeman shift of an atom. My questions is on how these two different scenarios - quantum and classical - are related.

The first relation states that the particle gains energy due to the torque exerted on it by B. However a Zeeman shift of an atom is - how I have understood it - basically not related to that the atom gains enegy. It just means that its internal levels are shifted. So it is not intuitive to me how the magnetic field "imparts" energy onto the particle in the second relation.

I hope my question is clear.


Niles.
 
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The first relation states that the particle gains energy due to the torque exerted on it by B.
Only if it can rotate in that direction. The transition between the corresponding quantum mechanical energy levels is not really a rotation, but has a similar effect: it is a change of µ, which changes the energy.
 
mfb said:
Only if it can rotate in that direction. The transition between the corresponding quantum mechanical energy levels is not really a rotation, but has a similar effect: it is a change of µ, which changes the energy.

Thanks. When you say that it is a change of μ, then you are referring to that mF is changed in
[tex] \mu = -m_Fg_F \mu_B[/tex]
?


Niles.
 
As the other two are constant... right ;).
 

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