Magnetic dipole moment of a ferromagnetic cylinder

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The discussion centers on calculating the magnetic dipole moment of a ferromagnetic nickel cylinder with specific dimensions in an external magnetic field of 80 gauss. The original poster seeks a formula tailored for cylinders, as they only have the formula for spheres, which is not directly applicable. Participants clarify that the magnetic dipole moment can be influenced by the alignment of magnetic domains in ferromagnetic materials when subjected to an external field. There is a suggestion to consider the volume of the cylinder in calculations, but the exact formula for cylinders remains unclear. The conversation highlights the need for a specific approach to derive the magnetic dipole moment for cylindrical geometries in ferromagnetic contexts.
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I have a Nickel cylinder, 5 micron in diameter and 10 micron in length. I know the external field \vec{B}is 80 gauss, what is the formula for the magnetic dipole moment of this cylinder in the field?

Now I only have the formula for magnetic dipole of spheres, which is \mu = \frac{4}{3}\pi a^3 \chi B, so I sort of make estimates by modeling the cylinder as a dimer of two spheres. But I would like to get a formula particular to cylinders.

Please help. Thank you!
 
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Can someone help here? thanks!
 
when you say magnetic dipole moment
do you mean M= \int I da
 
cragar said:
when you say magnetic dipole moment
do you mean M= \int I da

I think that is just another way to calculate the induced magnetic dipole moment if you know the current flowing. But now I have a magnetic field, I know exactly what it is, and I want to know what is the magnetic moment in a cylinder which happens to be ferromagnetic.
 
The formula i gave and the one you gave have different units.
there off by a \mu_0
So because you have a ferromagnetic material when we place this in an external B field it will cause the magnetic domains to line up and cause the cylinder to have its on B field.
could you just multiply it by the volume of a cylinder or will that not work.
I flipped through Griffiths electrodynamics and couldn't really find anything on it.
 
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