Magnetic Field Centre Of A Solenoid

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The discussion focuses on determining the magnetic field at the center of a solenoid using relevant equations. Two equations are mentioned: one for a solenoid without a core and the other for a segment of current-carrying wire, with the latter being identified as the Biot-Savart law. The user expresses confusion about how to apply these equations, particularly regarding the variables a and z. It is clarified that neither equation can be used directly for the problem at hand; instead, the magnetic field on the axis of a single loop of wire needs to be derived using the Biot-Savart law. The discussion emphasizes the need to integrate over the entire loop to find the magnetic field at a distance z from its center.
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Homework Statement


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1. B = ((mu(0) * N * I )) / L ,, 2. (mu(0) / 4pi)*((I*(delta(S) cross r(direction)))/r^2)



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im not really sure which equations to use. i tried to input the variables a and z into the second equation, but I am sure if it is correct or not.
 
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abdullahkiran said:
1. B = ((mu(0) * N * I )) / L ,, 2. (mu(0) / 4pi)*((I*(delta(S) cross r(direction)))/r^2)
First of all, what are these equations used for? Under what conditions can they used and what do the terms mean?
 
i know that equation 1. amperes law i think , is used for solenoids with no core
and the second is for a segment of current wire.

i picked these 2 because it seemed like they would satisfy the terms that was required in the answer. except i still don't know where i could include variables a and z :S

these i have covered:
mu (constant), N = number of turns , I = current , L = length , r = radius of solenoid ,

except delta(S) = i actually don't know lol.
 
Yes, equation 1 is the equation for a solenoid with no core. It can be derived using Ampere's law. But it's not the Ampere's law.

Equation 2 is the Biot-Savart law. You can refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law" and compare to find out what the vector delta(S) is.

Neither of these equations can be used directly here. Looks like what you need is the magnetic field on the axis of the single loop of a current carrying wire, at a distance z form it's center.

If you were not given that equation in class, or if it is not in your textbook, you can derive it using the Biot-Savart law (equation 2).

You just have to take delta(S) to be a small element of the wire, find the magnetic field z distance away from the center along the axis using the Biot-Savart law, and integrate over the whole loop.
 
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