Magnetic field due to a solenoid.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field produced by a solenoid and the force of attraction on a ferromagnetic substance placed in that field. It addresses both theoretical and practical aspects of magnetic fields in different media, focusing on the influence of the solenoid's core material and the surrounding medium.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine the magnetic field at a point in free space, considering the solenoid's dimensions, current, and core material.
  • Another participant suggests adding up the magnetic fields due to each turn of wire, mentioning the use of approximations for practical purposes.
  • A participant expresses concern about the influence of the core's permeability on the magnetic field outside the solenoid and questions how to transition to the permeability of free space for calculations.
  • There is a discussion about using an equation for a current loop to calculate the field outside the solenoid, with a query about the implications of using the core's permeability in that context.
  • One participant acknowledges the importance of understanding how the magnetic field changes at the boundary between different materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to calculate the magnetic field outside the solenoid, particularly regarding the influence of the core's permeability and the appropriate equations to use.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the assumptions related to the permeability of different media and the transition between them in calculations. The discussion also highlights the complexity of integrating contributions from each section of the solenoid.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electromagnetism, particularly those studying solenoids and magnetic fields in varying media.

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Hi.
I have a solenoid, of length l, radius r, which has n turns of copper wire wound on it, carries a current of I amperes, and has a ferromagnetic core of relative permeability μr. How do I determine the magnetic field at a point in free space, x meters from the center of the solenoid?
Also, how to calculate the force of attraction experienced by a ferromagnetic substance(whose magnetic properties are known) due to the same solenoid, placed at that point?
Thanks for any reply.
 
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Thanks.
The problem I came upon was that the field inside the solenoid will be influenced by the permeability of the core whereas the point I wish to measure the field is in a medium of different permeability.
I used B=μnI/l which gives the field inside the solenoid. For the field outside it, what expression should I use so as to switch over to the permeability of free space?

Can I use the below equation(total field by integrating the equation for a current loop) by just replacing μ° by μ°μr?
B=(μ°/4∏)[nIr2/2(r2+x2)3/2]
Wouldn't this mean the point is also in the same medium as the core?
 
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That's pretty much it yeah - remembering how the feld changes at the boundary ... you basically have materials with different refractive indexes.
 
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Thanks a lot!
 

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